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Former congressman charged in conspiracy involving terror fundraising ring (Mark Deli Siljander)
Star Tribune ^ | January 16, 2008 - 1:42 PM

Posted on 01/16/2008 11:50:20 AM PST by james500

A former congressman and delegate to the United Nations was indicted Wednesday as part of a terrorist fundraising ring that allegedly sent more than $130,000 to an al-Qaida and Taliban supporter who has threatened U.S. and international troops in Afghanistan.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan; US: Virginia; War on Terror
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1 posted on 01/16/2008 11:50:24 AM PST by james500
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To: james500

Great, now we have jihadists being elected into government.


2 posted on 01/16/2008 11:51:26 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: james500

Has to be a RINO.


3 posted on 01/16/2008 11:52:57 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: james500
Just broke on MSNBC tv. D or R doesn’t matter, hang ‘em high.
4 posted on 01/16/2008 11:56:40 AM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: james500
Ouch! That hurts.

It appears the the Republican Party was infiltrated by a "Towelie":

But when you think about it, the Democrat Party is not only infested with a full collection of such creeps, they let them run the whole show.

5 posted on 01/16/2008 11:57:37 AM PST by capt. norm (Those who think logically provide a nice contrast to the real world.)
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To: james500

Siljander; the name looks Albanian, though IFRC, this fellow is, or claims to be Christian.


6 posted on 01/16/2008 11:58:10 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: tobyhill

The progressive liberals in this country will eventually make CAIR it’s political party.


7 posted on 01/16/2008 11:58:51 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: james500

This could get big, they probably started with the R so it wouldn’t look like administratino is trumping it up.


8 posted on 01/16/2008 11:59:07 AM PST by Rippin
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To: james500

Hang him for treason.


9 posted on 01/16/2008 12:00:50 PM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: james500
Wow! He was our district rep for a couple terms.

Took over for Stockman when he was appointed Reagan's budget director.

10 posted on 01/16/2008 12:01:03 PM PST by michigander (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: james500

MSNBC is reporting that he is Reagan Appointee.


11 posted on 01/16/2008 12:01:46 PM PST by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: james500

That should be punished by immediate death.


12 posted on 01/16/2008 12:02:31 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: montyspython

Whats the difference isnt that what Barrack Obama is? Aren’t these two guys from the same neighborhood in Chicago... Is America that stupid to vote for a potential Muslim junior Senator from IL that has not been vetted by the media or any investigator?


13 posted on 01/16/2008 12:03:35 PM PST by tomnbeverly (Democrats Campaign Platform. No Attacks since 9/11/01 thanks to Bush Policy's. We must Change That.)
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To: montyspython
It seems something about Michigan, Muzzie, terrorist and now congress-critters are inseparable.
14 posted on 01/16/2008 12:05:46 PM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: stuartcr
Has to be a RINO.

Actually he was very conservative. He won a special election to replace David Stockman when Stockman became President Reagan's budget director. He faced a tough primary challenge a few years later from Fred Upton. Just before the primary, Siljander released an audio tape asking people to "break the back of Satan" by defeating Upton. That backfired bigtime and he lost the primary.

15 posted on 01/16/2008 12:05:47 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: montyspython

Keep a sharp eye on that dude from the midwest somewhere who insisted upon being sworn in on a Koran instead of a Bible!


16 posted on 01/16/2008 12:06:43 PM PST by Tucker39 (Just because I'm paranoid is no sign they're not really out to get me!)
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To: montyspython

Are you surprised??? We have a congressman from IL who refused to takes his alegience to America on the bible, but insisted on the quoran. Of course we won’t hear of him doing any wrong....he’s a democrat.


17 posted on 01/16/2008 12:10:12 PM PST by tillacum
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To: james500

It’s simple. He gets his day in court and, if found guilty, needs to be hanged immediately.


18 posted on 01/16/2008 12:14:09 PM PST by SlayerOfBunnies (An Indian friend of mine wishes to remind everyone... Indians <> muslims)
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To: SlayerOfBunnies

Hanged? Don’t you mean “beheaded”? I hear they’re really into that sort of thing.


19 posted on 01/16/2008 12:16:09 PM PST by OldGuard1
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To: OldGuard1

They are but we are civilized.


20 posted on 01/16/2008 12:16:40 PM PST by SlayerOfBunnies (An Indian friend of mine wishes to remind everyone... Indians <> muslims)
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To: james500

Hussein Obama keeps coming to mind.


21 posted on 01/16/2008 12:41:01 PM PST by Tigen (Illegals=cheap votes for libs=cheap labor for republicans and this can not be refuted!)
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To: james500

Hang him.


22 posted on 01/16/2008 12:53:38 PM PST by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: james500

Why the hell isn’t treason listed as one of the charges?


23 posted on 01/16/2008 1:08:06 PM PST by spower
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To: montyspython
Great, now we have jihadists being elected into government.

Is anyone surprised? We're supposed to be at war, yet we have a conga-line of millions entering illegally, from where we haven't a clue.

It's really beyond belief. Like a bad dream.

24 posted on 01/16/2008 1:11:47 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: james500

My parents were good friends with him when he was a congressman in Michigan (still get Christmas cards). I would be shocked if this were accurate as he really was one of the good guys.
I read the indictment and it really comes down to the question of whether he knew the money was illegal or not.
Otherwise he may have been misled as well. We’ll see.


25 posted on 01/16/2008 1:30:02 PM PST by Damocles (MexAmeriCananda - Coming Soon To A Global Economy Near You!)
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To: Tucker39

Koran? Oh you mean the “Terrorists Operating Manual and Field Guide”


26 posted on 01/16/2008 1:40:41 PM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: james500

This pic isn’t going to help much in his defense:

http://www.ed.ac.uk/news/051017siljander.html


27 posted on 01/16/2008 1:51:01 PM PST by CPTRedleg
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To: michigander

Interestingly, when Mark Siljander was being challenged in the GOP Primary years ago, and ultimately defeated by, Congressman Fred Upton, Siljander was recorded saying that Upton was being used as a tool of the devil, or some such nonsense.

I knew a guy who worked for Siljander in in the 1980’s. My friend was an evangelical Christian who said Siljander opened his DC Congressional Office every morning with prayer.

Though I personally always thought Siljander was a bit of a nutcase for saying that Fred Upton was a tool of Satan, this latest move shows he has cracked beyond repair. Treason, anyone?


28 posted on 01/16/2008 1:58:17 PM PST by DangerDanger ("Libertarianism is the Heart and Soul of Conservatism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: stuartcr; jan in Colorado
Has to be a RINO.

He lists George H.W. Bush and Duncan Hunter as references #1 and #2 on his corporate website.

29 posted on 01/16/2008 2:23:28 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: james500

Hope he hangs.
Sadly, my hopes always are dashed.


30 posted on 01/16/2008 5:25:13 PM PST by rom
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To: james500

Why doesn’t this surprise me??? And they even made sure the blowback would hurt Republicans in the event he was caught. When are the American people going to wake up to the fact that we are deeply penetrated by the enemy???


31 posted on 01/16/2008 5:27:40 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: james500

Already Posted!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1954751/posts


32 posted on 01/16/2008 5:31:00 PM PST by RatsDawg (Hsu out the Democrats in 2008!, Go Hsu-less vote GOP)
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To: james500

What a moron. I’m embarrassed for Republicans.


33 posted on 01/16/2008 5:40:23 PM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: SlayerOfBunnies
"He gets his day in court and, if when found guilty, needs to be hanged immediately."
34 posted on 01/16/2008 5:48:56 PM PST by 2111USMC (www.Fred08.com)
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To: james500

SILJANDER, Mark Deli
(1951—)

SILJANDER, Mark Deli, a Representative from Michigan; born in Chicago, Cook County, Ill., June 11, 1951; attended the public schools; graduated from Oak Park-River Forest High School, 1969; B.S., Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, 1972; M.A., same university, 1973; trustee, Fabius Township Board, St. Joseph County, 1972-1976; real estate broker; served in the Michigan State house of representatives, 1977-1981; delegate, Republican National Convention, 1980; elected as Republican to the Ninety-seventh Congress, by special election, to fill the vacancy caused by the resignation of United States Representative David A. Stockman, and reelected to the two succeeding Congresses (April 21, 1981-January 3, 1987); unsuccessful candidate for renomination to the One Hundredth Congress in 1986; delegate to the United Nations General Assembly, September 1987-September 1988; president of a consulting firm in Washington, D.C., and operates an import-export firm; radio commentator; unsuccessful candidate in 1992 for nomination to the One Hundred Third Congress; is a resident of Reston, Va.


35 posted on 01/16/2008 5:56:00 PM PST by restornu (Understanding that Grace and Mercy is what one receives after all they can do!)
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To: RatsDawg

This thread was posted before the one you linked.


36 posted on 01/16/2008 5:56:48 PM PST by james500
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To: montyspython

Mr Siljander has yet to make a comment on the charges

37 posted on 01/16/2008 6:01:06 PM PST by restornu (Understanding that Grace and Mercy is what one receives after all they can do!)
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To: james500
Here is the scary part:

The government accuses IARA of sending approximately $130,000 to help Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, whom the United States has designated a global terrorist. The money, sent to bank accounts in Peshawar, Pakistan, in 2003 and 2004, was masked as donations to an orphanage located in buildings that Hekmatyar owned.

38 posted on 01/16/2008 6:11:27 PM PST by HAL9000 (Fred Thompson/Mike Huckabee 2008)
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To: restornu
president of a consulting firm in Washington, D.C., and operates an import-export firm

Vandelay Industries?


39 posted on 01/16/2008 6:13:45 PM PST by chemicalman (Change change change change change change.....I'd make a good politician ;)
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To: james500

I have met Mark personally and eaten in the Congressional
Dining Room with him and talked about his personal life
as well as issues that brought me there.

I find it very difficult to believe this is true.

ampu


40 posted on 01/16/2008 6:19:32 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: james500
Cripes! He attended the same school as I.....Oak Park-River Forest High School in Oak Park, Illinois.

Ernest Hemingway is another alumni of my alma mater.

Leni

41 posted on 01/16/2008 6:24:26 PM PST by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !!!)
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To: james500

“It’s not clear whether Siljander ever engaged in the lobbying push, said John Wood, U.S. attorney in Kansas City. Nevertheless, IARA paid Siljander with money that was part of U.S. government funding awarded to the charity years earlier for relief work it promised to perform in Africa, the indictment says.

In interviews with the FBI in December 2005 and April 2007, Siljander denied doing any lobbying for IARA. The money, he told investigators, was merely a donation from IARA to help him write a book about Islam and Christianity, the indictment says.”

The knee jerks are in full force on this thread as usual. I’ll hold my fire awaiting more facts and a trial.


42 posted on 01/16/2008 6:31:53 PM PST by plain talk
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To: montyspython

Good thing CNN is pointing this out...(sigh)


43 posted on 01/16/2008 6:47:26 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

Does it have to be immediate?

We should make him watch re-runs of Rosie on the view for a few years to get even before we waterboard him in acid...


44 posted on 01/16/2008 6:48:43 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: james500

Several of the responses on this thread from people who know Siljander better than I do have cast doubt on this accusation. So maybe we should hold our fire until we learn more.

Possibly he was a useful idiot, who helped a terrorist organization without knowing it. Possibly he was not involved at all.

The MSM naturally jumps on any Republican who is suspected of anything.

And it has been an increasingly obvious pattern that the FBI loves to go after Republicans, while letting Democrats get away with treason and corruption of all kinds, and dragging their feet or ignoring it. The administration has zero control over the FBI, which still appears to be working for the left, as it did under the clintons.

So, maybe he’s guilty. But let’s wait and see some more evidence, first, before jumping on him.


45 posted on 01/16/2008 7:10:14 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: chemicalman; Larry Lucido

that looks ... like .. a ... latex saleman

I’ll bet he wants to bite into a block of cheese!


46 posted on 01/16/2008 7:32:08 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: Cicero
I actually know him as well and I am definitely inclined to the “useful idiot” theory.
47 posted on 01/16/2008 7:42:03 PM PST by Bainbridge
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
That should be punished by immediate death.

Personally, I'd drag it out for awhile.

48 posted on 01/16/2008 7:49:35 PM PST by rdl6989 (FRed Thompson '08)
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To: F15Eagle; Gamecock; MotleyGirl70; Cagey; Mr. Brightside

Let’s see, it was exporting potato chips, and importing matches. Or was it diapers?


49 posted on 01/16/2008 8:42:44 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: james500

Try him and fry him.


50 posted on 01/16/2008 9:35:13 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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