Posted on 01/10/2008 9:32:03 PM PST by sionnsar
Westech writes
"Multiple indications of vote fraud are beginning to pop up regarding the New Hampshire primary elections. Roughly 80% of New Hampshire precincts use Diebold machines, while the remaining 20% are hand counted. A Black Box Voting contributor has compiled a chart of results from hand counted precincts vs. results from machine counted precincts. In machine counted precincts, Clinton beat Obama by almost 5%. In hand counted precincts, Obama beat Clinton by over 4%, which closely matches the scientific polls that were conducted leading up to the election.Another issue is the Republican results from Sutton precinct. The final results showed Ron Paul with 0 votes in Sutton. The next day a Ron Paul supporter came forward claiming that both she and several of her family members had voted for Ron Paul in Sutton. Black Box Voting reports that after being asked about the discrepancy Sutton officials decided that Ron Paul actually received 31 votes in Sutton, but they were left off of the tally sheet due to 'human error.'"
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| Candidate | Total Votes | Avg. Overall | Votes by Machine |
Avg. Overall by Machine |
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Votes by Hand |
Avg. Overall by Hand |
Machine VS Hand | Votes by Unknown** |
Avg. Overall by Unknown |
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| Clinton | 112,166 | 39.003% |
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91,600 | 40.121% | 20,529 | 34.703% |
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5.419% (15,584 votes*) | 37 | 31.897% |
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| Edwards | 48,618 | 16.906% | 38,210 |
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16.736% | 10,402 | 17.584% | -0.847% (-2,437 votes*) |
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6 | 5.172% |
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| Gravel |
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402 | 0.140% | 317 | 0.139% | 85 |
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0.144% | -0.005% (-14 votes*) | 0 |
0.000% |
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| Kucinich | 3,893 | 1.354% |
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2,801 | 1.227% | 1,090 | 1.843% |
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-0.616% (-1,771 votes*) | 2 | 1.724% |
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| Obama | 104,639 | 36.386% | 81,633 |
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35.756% | 22,944 | 38.785% | -3.029% (-8,711 votes*) |
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62 | 53.448% |
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| Richardson |
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13,235 | 4.602% | 9,936 | 4.352% | 3,290 |
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5.561% | -1.209% (-3,478 votes*) | 9 |
7.759% |
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| Other | 4,627 | 1.609% |
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3,810 | 1.669% | 817 | 1.381% |
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0.288% (827 votes*) | 0 | 0.000% |
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| TOTALS: | 287,580 |
228,307 |
59,157 |
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**Unknown towns (where the data doesn't specify counting method) include: Harts Location, Waterville, Wentworth's Location
Oh, I believe everything from Black Box Voting. /sarc
Not this crap again.
haha...yeah. Hillary would hate this if it gained traction, so....
Oh my, please lets get a recount, it can’t be.
But do this right after her winning the next few primaries. : P
The dems hate Diebold - because the company supports repubs and not dems.
Otherwise .. I don’t suppose Diebold is any better or any worse than other machines.
I still maintain that many independents thought Obama would win in a land slide and took their votes to McCain to try and stop Romney.
However, the counting theory may explain the discrepancies.
Also, surely there are not that many airheads in New Hampshire who fell for Hillary’s crying stunt or as we like to say in Oklahoma her CBS 60 Minutes encore performance of 1992 with her and philandering Willy Jeff.
“Not this crap again.”
What do you mean crap? When EXIT Poll numbers were way off on the RAT side
It meant only two possibilities
1. Hillary Voters Lied To Exit Pollers or
2. More Ballots were cast for Hillary than Hillary Voters Exiting The Polling Booth.
It appears, the latter may be the reason the EXIT Polls were off so badly on the RAT side. It’s hard to do EXIT POLLS on stuffed ballots.
It’s not who votes that counts - it’s who counts the votes.
Don’t forget the ghost voters. A lot of dead Demoncrats come back to haunt the polls on election day.
“I still maintain that many independents thought Obama would win in a land slide and took their votes to McCain to try and stop Romney”
That does not explain the huge error in EXIT Polls, which tracks voters coming out of the polling booths. Your above statement may be true, but it should have been accounted for in exit polls.
Every election since 2000 has been said to be “stolen” by the evil Diebold and it’s always from these moonbat websites.
Remember, this Black Box Voting group is the group that alledged Bush stole the election from Kerry.
Why assume a person tells an exit poller the truth? I consider any such prying an intrusion. It’s not hard to believe people would lie, your vote is supposed to be secret. And if you only get the people who agree to talk, that skews things right there.
Having said that, it is fun if the democrats can get embroiled in a vote fraud controversy. After all, they still imply even the 2004 election involved some sort of republican fraud.
Final thought, Hilary won the cities and maybe they have more machines, whereas Obama won smaller towns and maybe more there use paper ballots. That would explain the machine/paper difference in results.
“Don’t forget the ghost voters. A lot of dead Demoncrats come back to haunt the polls on election day”
Thats my point. Posters here can’t seem to get it. They talk about busloads of people voting and late deciders etc. It is true that those voters would not show up in PRE-ELECTION Polls.
However, your point about ghost voters re-inforces HOW the EXIT Poll on the RAT side was off by so much. i.e Votes were being made by people not entering or leaving the polling booth. That is why EXIT Polls (Not Pre-Election Polls) were so off so badly on the RAT SIDE.
EXIT POLLS WOULD HAVE accounted for the Busloads and the late deciders in their surveys, but a ghost ballot never enters or leaves the building. It is unaccounted for in EXIT Polls, because it does not EXIT
Then explain why EXIT Poll numbers on the GOP dead on.
Are you saying that everybody who voted on the GOP side were honest with Exit pollers?
It might also mean the survey was conducted improperly.
We learned that one bigtime here in WA state in 2004, and especially right here in Fraud County.
It might also mean the survey was conducted improperly.
Thats a possilibility. But how do you come up with an accurate EXIT Poll on the GOP side and one so far out of whack, that it is not even funny on the RAT side.
If it was conducted improperly, would that not show up on the GOP Side, as well?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect
I suggest you read this, then give a moment to guess how it affected polling and actual votes in the lily white state of NH.
Here we go. Why don’t they just shut up.
BTW, I agree that first and 2nd generation Diebold voting machines should be immediately withdrawn from market and Diebold should be the target of a class action lawsuit by state and local governments, it’s hard not to guess that the Bradley effect had a role in the situation in NH.
Or midwestern Democrats and Independents are less covertly racist than New England Democrats and Independents.
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