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Senators Push To Allow Guns In National Parks
KTUL ^ | Thu January 10, 2008

Posted on 01/10/2008 9:01:45 PM PST by monkeycard

Nearly half the Senate is pushing the Bush administration to let gun owners carry handguns and other firearms into national parks and wildlife refuges. Forty-seven lawmakers, including Jim Inhofe and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, have signed a letter asking Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne to lift Reagan-era restrictions that prevent citizens from carrying readily accessible firearms onto lands managed by the National Park Service and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

In a letter drafted by Senator Mike Crapo of Idaho, the senators say current regulations, developed in the early 1980s, quote, "infringe on the rights of law-abiding gun owners who wish to transport and carry firearms on or across these lands."

The policies also differ from those of some other federal agencies, such as the Bureau of Land Management and Forest Service.

Kempthorne spokesman Chris Paolino says officials are reviewing the letter.

The current regulations were adopted in 1983 under then-Interior Secretary James Watt.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Idaho; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: 110th; banglist; carry; crapo; gun; national
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1 posted on 01/10/2008 9:01:47 PM PST by monkeycard
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To: monkeycard

There was recently a tragic story of a hiker who was maimed by a brown bear in a National Forest, the hiker wouldn’t hike in state lands without a firearm, but didn’t bring the firearm while on a vacation trip to the National parks.

There is one huge downside to allowing firearms in National Parks, the poachers and marijuana growers and meth lab gangs could now carry firearms in with less suspicion.


2 posted on 01/10/2008 9:06:52 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander

Sorry. But the innocent law abiding should not have to be at the mercy of the criminal nor have their 2nd amendment rights stripped cause some may abuse the right. The DU persons are angry about this. They think all THEIR innocent animals will get killed and THEY will have to be around gun -totting knuckldragggers in the National Parks.


3 posted on 01/10/2008 9:10:25 PM PST by therut
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To: monkeycard

good


4 posted on 01/10/2008 9:14:05 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: therut

Some of the most obnoxious, haughty, lib enviro-whacko’s I’ve ever met were in National Parks.


5 posted on 01/10/2008 9:19:54 PM PST by umgud (no more subprime politicians)
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To: monkeycard

Dont forget that the 10% federal excise tax on rifles and 11% federal excise tax on pistols goes to fund national parks.

It’s usually over $500 mil a year.


6 posted on 01/10/2008 9:22:38 PM PST by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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To: JerseyHighlander
JerseyHighlander said: "There is one huge downside to allowing firearms in National Parks, the poachers and marijuana growers and meth lab gangs could now carry firearms in with less suspicion."

How would carrying a firearm legally reduce any suspicion that a person is committing a crime? Either a person is suspected or they are not.

The reality is that EVERYONE will be able to carry arms without BEING GUILTY OF A CRIME, unless they are committing a crime.

7 posted on 01/10/2008 9:35:17 PM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Ping?


8 posted on 01/10/2008 9:37:25 PM PST by Friend_from_the_Frozen_North (If you are, as Rush would say, "A Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance" don't waste my time...)
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To: therut
"the innocent law abiding should not have to be at the mercy of the criminal nor have their 2nd amendment rights stripped cause some may abuse the right."

So true. It's a credit to the stupidity of some of the people in Government that the use of firearms by criminals is interpreted as a need to deprive law abiding citizens of a Constitutional right to keep and bear firearms. Someone breaks the law - therefore we must punish those who don't break the law. Unbelievable still!

9 posted on 01/10/2008 9:55:08 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: monkeycard

I don’t camp in bear country without taking along one of my big caliber weapons.


10 posted on 01/10/2008 10:04:34 PM PST by Mogollon
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To: monkeycard
This actually started as a petition from the Virginia Citizen's Defense League on February 9, 2005. The VCDL is Virginia's premier grass-roots gun-rights organization.
11 posted on 01/11/2008 4:28:22 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Mogollon

“I don’t camp in bear country without taking along one of my big caliber weapons.”

I’m with you, as a hiker and camper I usually carry my Ruger .44 mag to deal with bears. I have never had an encounter with a bear, but there are just too many stories of bears wandering into camps looking for food. The only time federal authorities would ever find out I violated their gun restriction laws is if I had to use it. In that case, I’d rather face criminal charges or fines than be dead.


12 posted on 01/11/2008 5:03:04 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Keith Brown

I thought that all the federal excise taxes on hunting equipment/supplies as well as those on fishing and boat fuel were granted back to the states.


13 posted on 01/11/2008 5:13:16 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Pittman-Robertson Act

http://www.nraila.net/issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=103


14 posted on 01/11/2008 5:28:38 AM PST by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: Hazcat; Keith Brown
Thanks for the link.

The 5th paragraph says ".....go back to state and local organizations........"

The 6th paragraph says "....alloted to state wildlife....."

15 posted on 01/11/2008 6:10:11 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
If this is going to happen, then it better be quick. If a dem gets elected POTUS later this year, we can write off any chance of this bill passing into law.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

16 posted on 01/11/2008 6:10:14 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: JerseyHighlander
There is one huge downside to allowing firearms in National Parks, the poachers and marijuana growers and meth lab gangs could now carry firearms in with less suspicion.

Do you seriously believe that poachers, marijuana growers and girl snatchers/rapists/killers are NOT carrying guns into National Parks now, because of the law against it?

17 posted on 01/11/2008 6:23:02 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Mogollon
I don’t camp in bear country without taking along one of my big caliber weapons.

Better to not leave the home without one.

18 posted on 01/11/2008 6:29:41 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: umgud

Some of the most obnoxious, haughty, lib enviro-whacko’s I’ve ever met were in National Parks.

On last summers trip through Jellystone, I ran into some of those while waiting at a road closure on the east side. We were bemoaning the look of the park. That is on the east side, the number of dead bug trees and burned trees was just IMHO unconscionable. The park looked uncared for and a disaster. The west side was little better after all the growth from the big fire, but the still standing ghosts of the big fire still looked bad to me.

The park should be a show place of proper forestry, and a place of beauty found no place else on earth IMHO, instead it is an example of something no one should have to pay to see. A prime example of what man’s neglect, and poor stewardship will result in. It was a sad experience listening to the chiding by those environmentalists who knew better.

I am in complete disagreement with the park service regarding how the parks should be run. Leave it to nature is the easy way out. and inconsistent with the nature of man.

...and where there are bears lions buffalo and wolves, guns are a given.


19 posted on 01/11/2008 6:38:21 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: JerseyHighlander
There is one huge downside to allowing firearms in National Parks, the poachers and marijuana growers and meth lab gangs could now carry firearms in with less suspicion.

what's the downside if they are already doing it?

20 posted on 01/11/2008 6:57:56 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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