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Presidential candidate would freeze government hiring (Fred Thompson)
Federal Computer Worker ^ | January 10, 2008 | Wade-Hahn Chan

Posted on 01/10/2008 12:24:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The genius of simplicity . Hit em hard tonight Senator .


41 posted on 01/10/2008 1:43:59 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: NormsRevenge

BUMP


42 posted on 01/10/2008 1:46:32 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Route66

Correct!


43 posted on 01/10/2008 1:47:12 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Free Vulcan

And that should be a reason to drop Republican candidates because you can check either D or R but not really be one?


44 posted on 01/10/2008 1:47:50 PM PST by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: Help!

Good point. Also, outsourcing to private sector just
shifts the work to a shadow govt. workforce. That in
turn, makes it harder to cut $, because of accusations
of hurting the economy.


45 posted on 01/10/2008 1:58:02 PM PST by urtax$@work (we have faced tenacity before....& The Best kind of Memorial is a BURNING Memorial)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Glad to see Fred is being specific about how to cut costs.

I would argue that we will never know what government SHOULD cost because the incentives are wrong for internal cost cutting. The way to higher personal compensation for any government employee is to have a bigger budget, more employees to manage, and a bigger personal empire. They will fight to the death to defend their department’s budget and justify their headcount because it justifies their own salary.

I’d like to see a program of RAISES and BONUSES for government employees based on how much they CUT SPENDING compared to the previous year. That could be as simple as a clerk finding more efficient ways to do things, or finding cheaper suppliers, or as widespread as a department head reducing headcount. If they reduce the spending they are responsible for by 10%, they get a one-time bonus equal to 10% of salary and a 10% raise. So cuts that save $100B net out as $80B in cuts the first year and $90B less in all future years.


46 posted on 01/10/2008 1:59:18 PM PST by Kellis91789 (Liberals aren't atheists. They worship government -- including human sacrifices.)
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To: rocksblues

Yeah it happens, especially when their’s no race on the other side. Did it happen at our caucus? I don’t know. The Dem race was pretty hot with record turnout so I doubt it.

We did have an ungodly turnout at ours too, but while I was in line it looked like they were marking people right off the registered GOP list, so I think the switching was minimal, and genuine. All the GOP candidate brought over Dems who switched parties, and IMO are going to stay GOP.

I think the old coalitions are realigning and you are going to see alot of people switching parties permanently over the next few years.


47 posted on 01/10/2008 1:59:28 PM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy.)
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To: mtnwmn
RUSH: Now McCain. This is funny. This is from Jonathan Martin, our old buddy the blogger at The Politico. "Styrofoam coffee cup in hand, John McCain came back toward the press section of his charter jet to indulge questions and allow the photogs to get some shots. Asked what he would say to conservatives still suspicious about his candidacy, McCain interrupted the question. 'I say a very large portion of it, the conservative base, voted for me yesterday -- I thank you,' McCain said... 'I will continue to expand that base.' McCain cited two reasons -- one old and one new -- to make his case as to why Christian conservatives should get behind him. 'A very large portion of the evangelical community is becoming more and more concerned about climate change because of our biblical obligation to be good stewards of our planet,' McCain said. 'That clearly is an issue that I'm in complete sync with the evangelical community on.'" Okay. Stop laughing, because this was a calculated statement -- and the evangelical community? Why, I thought that was Huckabee's!

But make no mistake: Governor Huckabee, at this stage, in my opinion, is in the race to take Romney out of the way for McCain. Just to hit off on this evangelical business, the thing Huckabee's gotta understand is if you have made a deal with McCain behind the scenes, under the table, understand it's one way, because McCain is going to throw you overboard as soon as he has to, Governor (laughing), when the time comes -- and he'll not remember the deal or it will get reshaped in his mind or somehow changed. McCain "also said he'd point out something that he's not always been comfortable doing -- that he's voted the anti-abortion line for his whole career. 'I'll also try to make them remember that my social conservative record has been consistent and unchanging,'" and in that way he's going to take out Rudy. So he's going to try to get the Huckabee vote with the global warming route and try to get the evangelicals. He's going to try to take Rudy out with his consistent abortion stand, which he's not fabricating. He has been consistent on the pro-life issue.
48 posted on 01/10/2008 2:10:54 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: mnehrling
You're point that the people need to be educated that they don't need a nanny government is well taken. But more specifically, the problem is that ignorance of the Constitution and how the government is supposed to work is epidemic. Widespread ignorance of the Constitution is evidenced by the following links.
http://tinyurl.com/npt6t
http://tinyurl.com/hehr8
The consequence of widespread constitutional ignorance, fallout from FDR era 10th A.-ignoring politics in my opinion, is that the people have become detached from the idea that the Founder's required that all federal government powers be explicitly listed in the federal Constitution, particularly those powers associated with federal spending.

As I have mentioned elsewhere, the people need to wise up to what's going on with respect to constitutionally unauthorized federal government spending and put the federal gorilla back into its cage. The people need to petition spending-happy government leaders who are not upholding their oaths to defend the Constitution, demanding that they resign from their jobs. Federal taxes need to be appropriately lowered too.

49 posted on 01/10/2008 2:11:51 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: urtax$@work
Also, outsourcing to private sector just shifts the work to a shadow govt. workforce.

True, but contractors tend to be both much more efficient and easier to cut. There are definitely exceptions, but generally it is better to bid out the work to contractors.

50 posted on 01/10/2008 2:12:18 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: rightinthemiddle

Hey, watch it now...

That’s MOST Federal employees maybe, but there are a few exceptions ;-)


51 posted on 01/10/2008 2:25:31 PM PST by ejonesie22 (In America all people have a right to be wrong, some just exercise it a bit much...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Yawn. Wake me up when Fred wants to abolish entire agencies and departments. This is nothing more than a band-aid.

More like a tourniquet. The first step in first aid, is to stop the bleeding.

52 posted on 01/10/2008 2:36:42 PM PST by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe he’ll trim or close the education and energy departments for a starters.


53 posted on 01/10/2008 2:45:40 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Bobkk47

I couldn’t agree more on all of the above. I’m afraid that if Thompson doesn’t do well in SC, he will throw his support to McCain.


54 posted on 01/10/2008 3:08:59 PM PST by mtnwmn (mtnwmn)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Several of the candidates are talking about reducing the size of the staff at FedGov. Unfortunately the solution will probably not reduce the budget at all since mercenaries will be hired. In fact it will probably cost more.


55 posted on 01/10/2008 3:11:23 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: Miss Didi

That was the gist of it;o)


56 posted on 01/10/2008 3:15:40 PM PST by mtnwmn (mtnwmn)
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To: steel_resolve

Because we’ve become a welfare-laden nation largely comprised of poorly educated and uninformed socialists. Only the dumbest people in the United States would vote for a far left shill or a bunch of phonies like Huckabee, Romney, McCain or Rudy. What you see now is just the result of years of moral decline, a liberally-biased education system and a bunch of deadbeats that want the government to give them everything. In other words, welcome to Europe.


57 posted on 01/10/2008 3:19:37 PM PST by NoobRep
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another good idea from Fred.


58 posted on 01/10/2008 3:19:42 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Miss Didi

The following is the rest of the story:

RUSH: Rich Lowry posted something interesting yesterday at National Review Online. He entitled it “The McCain Weakness.” This is what he wrote: “This is it: Conservatives were 54% of the electorate [in New Hampshire] and McCain lost to Romney among them by seven points. When the race moves south, conservatives will probably be 75-80% of the electorate, and they will presumably dominate in closed primaries. But this is the thing: At the outset, it looked like the way the early states were stacked up would help Romney. But once Romney lost Iowa, they were stacked up to help McCain.

“The Arizona senator might be able to all but knock Romney out of the race in Michigan with another strong showing among independents, meaning he could possibly KO Romney without ever beating him handily among Republicans. Weird, huh? Then, with Romney gone, McCain is presumably competing with Huckabee and Rudy (although Fred is still lurking) for those conservative voters and that’s a fight he could well win.”

Now, this is really fascinating, and it also illustrates how the little people actually knew before all these primaries began. All this hype about who has to win where and who has to win what, is meaningless — except for what I said. You have Iowa, New Hampshire, two states that do not feature conservatives.

The caucuses are a weird setup in Iowa, and, of course, New Hampshire anybody can cross the state line and vote, and among conservatives Romney beat McCain by seven points! It was with independents he won. Now, we’re Republicans, and theoretically we’re out there trying to nominate a conservative to run as president here, as close to one as we can get, and yet the guy who wins New Hampshire is going all over the board, and the guy who wins Iowa getting votes from independents, who by definition are not conservatives! This is why, folks — this is precisely why — McCain and Huckabee are feverishly trying to get Romney out now, as soon as they can, and this is why they are being vicious in their attacks on Romney.

This is why we repeatedly point out here that the states that allow independents and even Democrats to vote in their Republican primaries are not indicative of the Republican Party, which is why McCain and Huckabee have shots in them. McCain and Huckabee are winning these early states, where Republicans are outnumbered. It’s not Republicans; it’s not conservatives in majority who were electing Huckabee or McCain, so far, voting for them. Michigan is the same. Now, the Democrats in Michigan, they got a little bit different problem because Michigan violated party rules and is running ahead of when the party wanted to, so Michigan’s getting no delegates. The Republican Party is penalizing Michigan a little but not totally, so there are delegates at stake for the Republicans in Michigan.

So Hillary is the only person on the ballot in Michigan. Nobody else is competing there. The Democrat Party in Michigan is urging people on the Democrat side to vote nobody. They don’t want them crossing the aisle. They want nobody, because they’re trying to get even with the party and make amends at the same time to try to get some delegates that can vote and count at the convention. So they’re trying to not vote for Hillary.

They don’t want them crossing the aisles and voting on the Republican side. But McCain clearly wants that, which is what happened last time in Michigan in 2000 and Huckabee clearly wants that.

So if McCain and Huckabee can combine to pick up most of the independent Democrat vote, and even if Romney gets most of the Republicans, he’s still going to be outnumbered. So Romney will be defeated if this happens in three states, not by Republicans voting against him, but by Democrats and independents.

This is key to understanding, and it’s fascinating because Romney figured Iowa and New Hampshire would launch him. Now he’s gotta go to Michigan, and he’s gotta go to Nevada, and then everybody’s gotta go to South Carolina. So it’s fascinating to me, folks.

Here we have Republican primaries in which Democrats and independents are determining our winners! It’s important that you understand that. Romney... I hate to say this, but Romney may be out of this before we ever get to states where a majority of Republicans, conservative Republicans are going to vote — and look at who the choices might be then! I don’t think he’s going to get out. But I mean the definition is he’s done, he’s cooked, he’s lost four, hasn’t won one. At some point you gotta win something for momentum. He’s not going to get South Carolina. By Super Tuesday, Republicans might have as their two choices people that are not conservatives that have been elected, I should say, and have their leads based on votes from Democrats and independents. Can you say “screwed”?

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Now, I want to clarify something. I might have left the impression that Romney would get out after Michigan. The press is talking about that.

The press, once again, is repeating the mistakes: “If he doesn’t win in New Hampshire, he’s finished. He’s gone.” He’s still in there, and he leads the delegate count right now, and they’re saying, “If he doesn’t win Michigan, he’s going to get out. It’s done. He’s finished. He’s not going to get out.” He will precisely not get out until Super Tuesday because the real conservative voices in terms of the American people have not been heard! It’s independents and Democrats who have given victories to Huckabee and McCain so far.

It was Romney who won a majority of Republican votes in New Hampshire. But they were outnumbered by all the other people that could cross over and vote from whatever party or no party. So Romney’s not going to get out. His strategy is to wait ‘til Republican conservatives actually start voting here, in these primaries, and they haven’t yet, in terms of a majority, and it’s not going to be the case in Michigan, either


59 posted on 01/10/2008 3:19:44 PM PST by mtnwmn (mtnwmn)
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To: Bobkk47

I couldn’t agree more on all of the above. I’m afraid that if Thompson doesn’t do well in SC, he will throw his support to McCain.


60 posted on 01/10/2008 4:01:04 PM PST by mtnwmn (mtnwmn)
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