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Paul: US inching toward 'soft fascism'
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Posted on 01/08/2008 10:10:56 AM PST by mnehring

"We're not moving toward Hitler-type fascism, but we're moving toward a softer fascism," said the 10-term Texas congressman Sunday.

Speaking on PBS Sunday, the presidential candidate affirmed that the American people are giving up their rights and privacy, 'all in the name of safety and security'.

"Loss of civil liberties, corporations running the show, big government in bed with big business," said Paul of the downhill situation that awaits Americans.

"So you have the military-industrial complex, you have the medical-industrial complex, you have the financial industry, you have the communications industry. That's where the control is," the libertarian-leaning politician explained.

The Texan concluded that what is happening will be very 'dangerous' as the situation is getting to a point that 'is hard to reverse'.

Paul, who ended up fifth in the Iowa caucus last week with 10 percent of the votes, is becoming immensely popularity among the American youth as well as the educated elite.


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KEYWORDS: 2008election; election2008; ronpaul
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To: mnehrling

Hey M; send them to www.anomalies.net where they can talk to all the other conspiracy kooks out there and have their worst fears confirmed.

Since I left the site a year back and most of the folks that were proving this stuff to be a bunch of garbage followed me elsewhere, we’re seeing a resurgence in the kooks being able to run willy-nilly through the wild-lie field and they are now able to not be questioned any more.

So your family-in-law will find a nice, snuggly place to plant themselves in front of the computer (and with luck, forget to vote)


21 posted on 01/08/2008 10:23:25 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: mnehrling

>>Paul, who ended up fifth in the Iowa caucus last week with 10 percent of the votes, is becoming immensely popularity among the American youth as well as the educated elite.<<

The rest of us, the great unwashed masses, think Ron Paul is a kook.


22 posted on 01/08/2008 10:25:18 AM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Steve_Seattle
The closest thing I've seen to fascism lately is Paul's supporters chasing Sean Hannity down the street as he was going to dinner.

The closest thing I've seen to fascism lately is the growing hubris of increasingly paramilitary-styled police forces in the United States, emboldened by no-knock warrants.

23 posted on 01/08/2008 10:25:34 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: mnehrling
Typical Paul. He takes a good point, and proceeds to wrap it in a shroud of lunacy, paranoia, and conspiracy theory. We are inching toward a soft fascism, in which states can send SWAT teams to break in your door to force you to take your child to the hospital, or in which holding an opinion that illegal immigration is wrong gets you branded as a racist. But to blame the military industrial complex? The communications industry? The financial industry? Geez.

Yeah, Ronnikens, they're all out to get us, all the time.

24 posted on 01/08/2008 10:26:22 AM PST by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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To: mnehrling

We are souching into the pit of socialism and will be unable to untangle our lives from its’ grasp.

Additionally Big Brother has a friend named Big Business which has been creating permanent records on all of us for the past generation. The private firms doing it for marketing and credit evaluation but it has led to rampant identity theft (especially among the estimated 20 million illegal immigrants that our politicians and local governments seem all too happy to have in this nation).

I don’t see the fascism though.


25 posted on 01/08/2008 10:26:23 AM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy in 2008.)
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To: mnehrling; NCSteve; Tax-chick
This is why I like Ron Paul -- because I believe we do face serious threats to our liberty from within and without, and those threats will only increase with each technological and biomedical leap.

He may not be right on some specifics, but socialism and fascism are not impossibilities in this country.

26 posted on 01/08/2008 10:26:35 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("When we say I saw the PATRIOTS win the WORLD SERIES, it doesn't necessarily mean ...." - Mitt)
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To: rineaux; Constitution Day; pissant
Eisenhower is often misquoted in that speech, he never said there was a military industrial complex actually controlling things, he said we should guard against that happening and citizen should be on alert to ensure a proper 'meshing'.. The whole speech is quite good actually.

....Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.....In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist....We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together...Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades. In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government....

27 posted on 01/08/2008 10:27:18 AM PST by mnehring
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Forgot a line before this...

...A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction....

28 posted on 01/08/2008 10:28:04 AM PST by mnehring
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To: RegulatorCountry; rineaux; Constitution Day

“brings” denotes current. Eisenhower has been dead a long, long time.

It is one of the most common liberal arguments to misapply Eiesenhower’s statement.


29 posted on 01/08/2008 10:28:48 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: mnehrling

The Shadow Government is made up of the unelected opponents of the Bush Administration who abuse the powers of their jobs to block the elected administration’s agenda. Whether that is sending your husband on a “fact finding” mission or leaking inside information.

The State Department and CIA are full of such partisan holdovers.


30 posted on 01/08/2008 10:29:34 AM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy in 2008.)
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To: elhombrelibre

The term was around long long before Eisenhower.


31 posted on 01/08/2008 10:29:39 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
“brings” denotes current. Eisenhower has been dead a long, long time.

Nice recovery, lol. Took you about twenty minutes though.

32 posted on 01/08/2008 10:30:39 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: mnehrling

We’re the freest people in the history of the planet, but this pimp makes millions selling platitudes of hopelessness to borderline psychos.


33 posted on 01/08/2008 10:31:05 AM PST by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: PeterFinn

“Funny how liberals decry giving up rights yet they argue against out RKBA all the time.”

Perhaps you should read some of his writings on the second amendment. He is by far the strongest RKBA candidate.

Here is his stance on assault weapons:

“More importantly, however, the debate about certain types of weapons ignores the fundamental purpose of the Second amendment. The Second amendment is not about hunting deer or keeping a pistol in your nightstand. It is not about protecting oneself against common criminals. It is about preventing tyranny. The Founders knew that unarmed citizens would never be able to overthrow a tyrannical government as they did. They envisioned government as a servant, not a master, of the American people. The muskets they used against the British Army were the assault rifles of the time. It is practical, rather than alarmist, to understand that unarmed citizens cannot be secure in their freedoms. It’s convenient for gun banners to dismiss this argument by saying “That could never happen here, this is America”- but history shows that only vigilant people can keep government under control. By banning certain weapons today, we may plant the seeds for tyranny to flourish ten, thirty, or fifty years from now. “


34 posted on 01/08/2008 10:31:24 AM PST by FreeInWV
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To: RegulatorCountry

The only kind word the moonbat left has for Ike is to parrot that one phrase. They denouce the 1950s as an era of a “phoney” Red Scare and “right wingers” blocking civil rights.

Big Media is more powerful than the munitions companies.


35 posted on 01/08/2008 10:31:49 AM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy in 2008.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
"“So you have the military-industrial complex, you have the medical-industrial complex, you have the financial industry, you have the communications industry. That’s where the control is,

You also have the unions industrial complex, the accounting industrial complex, the hamburger flipping industrial complex.  Everyone is a lobbyist. I've never met anyone that wasn't lobbying their own personal well being on some level for most of their conscience moments. Even in passionate moments each partner is trying to convince the other they are better than reality.  :-)

 

36 posted on 01/08/2008 10:32:10 AM PST by HawaiianGecko (waiting to hear what the reverends Jesse & Al have to say about lily white Iowa voting for Obama!)
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To: weegee
We are souching into the pit of socialism and will be unable to untangle our lives from its’ grasp....I don’t see the fascism though.

Don't forget, the fascist nations of Europe were uber-socialists. Heck, the Nazis were "national socialists."
37 posted on 01/08/2008 10:34:00 AM PST by Antoninus (If you want the national GOP to look more like the Massachusetts GOP, vote for Flip Romney)
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To: Jokelahoma

We are inching toward a soft fascism, in which states can send SWAT teams to break in your door to force you to take your child to the hospital, or in which holding an opinion that illegal immigration is wrong gets you branded as a racist. But to blame the military industrial complex?


Um, militarized SWAT enforcers ARE part of the military industrial complex.


38 posted on 01/08/2008 10:34:55 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: pissant
Well, perhaps in academic circles it was, but I don’t think the general public was aware of the term before he used it. And I don’t think it ever really was a part of the lexicon of America outside Leftist circles, and, obviously, Run Paul’s anti-Ameican mind.
39 posted on 01/08/2008 10:35:23 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda: enemy of civilization and humanity. Ron Paul: al Qaeda's puppet and mouthpiece.)
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To: RegulatorCountry; pissant
Nice recovery, lol. Took you about twenty minutes though. Not a recovery, but great for a laugh.
40 posted on 01/08/2008 10:35:52 AM PST by rineaux (tagline on strike.)
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