Posted on 01/07/2008 1:08:39 PM PST by no dems
Imagine if Mitt Romneys church proclaimed on its website that it is unashamedly white.
The media would pounce, and Romneys presidential candidacy would be over. Yet that is exactly what Barack Obamas church says on its web site except in reverse.
We are a congregation which is unashamedly black and unapologetically Christian, says the Trinity United Church of Christs website in Chicago. We are an African people and remain true to our native land, the mother continent, the cradle of civilization.
Thats just the beginning. The church has a non-negotiable commitment to Africa, according to its website, and its pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. subscribes to what is called the Black Value System.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
Well about time!
I’ll return with more stuff...
“Imagine if Mitt Romneys church proclaimed on its website that it is unashamedly white.”
Until recently, the Mormon Church pretty much did exactly that. Blacks were black because they were decendants of people who rebelled against Jesus and were punished by being turned black.
SHUSSSSSSSSSSSSHH!!!!
Keep this secret until AFTER the nomination!!!
Oh, man you said it first.
I just got an email about this from my mom, asking if it were true or not. I’ll have to forward this link to her.
I would suggest it is because unlike Huck and Mitt , no one really thinks Obambi believes his own religion.
We are an African people and remain true to our native land, the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. ????? If this is actually what they have said, why don’t they go back to Africa? Either they are Americans or they aren’t.
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Do such words override their allegiance to the U.S.A.?
I received an email a few days back concerning this subject. The emailer was concerned about its authenticity. And now it appears on Newsmax. Scary!
Link: http://www.tucc.org/about.htm
It’s not like it’s a secret belief of the Mormons. Smith used it to justify slavery, in fact.
You would have thought the author would have used a different example. Perhaps he’s clueless.
About Us |
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We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community. The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision: 1. A congregation committed to ADORATION. 2. A congregation preaching SALVATION. 3. A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION. 4. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA. 5. A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION. 6. A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION. 7. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA. 8. A congregation committed to LIBERATION. 9. A congregation committed to RESTORATION. 10. A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY. Click here to read about Dr. Wrights talking points for Trinity United Church of Christ its Web site and the Black Value System. |
THE BLACK VALUE SYSTEM |
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Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System, written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee, chaired by the late Vallmer Jordan in 1981. Dr. Manford Byrd, our brother in Christ, withstood the ravage of being denied his earned ascension to the number one position in the Chicago School System. His dedication to the pursuit of excellence, despite systematic denials, has inspired the congregation of Trinity United Church of Christ. Prayerfully, we have called upon the wisdom of all past generations of suffering Blacks for guidance in fashioning an instrument of Black self-determination, the Black Value System. Beginning in 1982, an annual Black Value System Educational Scholarship in the name of Dr. Byrd was instituted. The first recipient of the Dr. Manford Byrd Award, which is given annually to the man or woman who best exemplifies the Black Value System, was our brother, Dr. Manford Byrd. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They consist of the following concepts: 1. Commitment to God. The God of our weary years will give us the strength to give up prayerful passivism and become Black Christian Activists, soldiers for Black freedom and the dignity of all humankind. 2. Commitment to the Black Community. The highest level of achievement for any Black person must be a contribution of strength and continuity of the Black Community. 3. Commitment to the Black Family. The Black family circle must generate strength, stability and love, despite the uncertainty of externals, because these characteristics are required if the developing person is to withstand warping by our racist competitive society. 4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education. We must forswear anti-intellectualism. Continued survival demands that each Black person be developed to the utmost of his/her mental potential despite the inadequacies of the formal education process. Real education fosters understanding of ourselves as well as every aspect of our environment. Also, it develops within us the ability to fashion concepts and tools for better utilization of our resources, and more effective solutions to our problems. Since the majority of Blacks have been denied such learning, Black Education must include elements that produce high school graduates with marketable skills, a trade or qualifications for apprenticeships, or proper preparation for college. 5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence. To the extent that we individually reach for, even strain for excellence, we increase, geometrically, the value and resourcefulness of the Black Community. We must recognize the relativity of ones best; this years best can be bettered next year. Such is the language of growth and development. We must seek to excel in every endeavor. 6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic. It is becoming harder to find qualified people to work in Chicago. Whether this is true or not, it represents one of the many reasons given by businesses and industries for deserting the Chicago area. We must realize that a location with good facilities, adequate transportation and a reputation for producing skilled workers will attract industry. We are in competition with other cities, states and nations for jobs. High productivity must be a goal of the Black workforce. 7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect. To accomplish anything worthwhile requires self-discipline. We must be a community of self-disciplined persons if we are to actualize and utilize our own human resources, instead of perpetually submitting to exploitation by others. Self-discipline, coupled with a respect for self, will enable each of us to be an instrument of Black Progress and a model for Black Youth. 8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of Middleclassness. Classic methodology on control of captives teaches that captors must be able to identify the talented tenth of those subjugated, especially those who show promise of providing the kind of leadership that might threaten the captors control. 1. Killing them off directly, and/or fostering a social system that encourages them to kill off one another. 2. Placing them in concentration camps, and/or structuring an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons. 3. Seducing them into a socioeconomic class system which, while training them to earn more dollars, hypnotizes them into believing they are better than others and teaches them to think in terms of we and they instead of us. 4. So, while it is permissible to chase middleclassness with all our might, we must avoid the third separation method the psychological entrapment of Black middleclassness. If we avoid this snare, we will also diminish our voluntary contributions to methods A and B. And more importantly, Black people no longer will be deprived of their birthright: the leadership, resourcefulness and example of their own talented persons. 9. Pledge to Make the Fruits of All Developing and Acquired Skills Available to the Black Community. 10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions. 11. Pledge Allegiance to All Black Leadership Who Espouse and Embrace the Black Value System. 12. Personal Commitment to Embracement of the Black Value System. To measure the worth and validity of all activity in terms of positive contributions to the general welfare of the Black Community and the Advancement of Black People towards freedom. |
Talking Points
Dr. Wrights talking points (3.1.7) for Trinity United Church of Christ its Web site and the Black Value System (in response to Erik Rushs comments (2.28.07) on the Hannity and Colmes show):
One of the biggest gaps in knowledge that causes the kind of ignorance that you hear spouted by this man [Erik Rush] and those like him, has to do with the fact that these persons are completely ignorant when it comes to the Black religious tradition. The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cones book, Black Power and Black Theology.
Black theology is one of the many theologies in the Americas that became popular during the liberation theology movement. They include Hispanic theology, Native American theology, Asian theology and Womanist theology.
I use the word systematized because Black liberation theology was in existence long before Dr. Cones book. It originates in the days of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. It was systematized and published by theologians, Old Testament scholars, New Testament scholars, ethicists, church historians, and historians of religion such as Dr. James Cone, Dr. Cain Hope Felder, Dr. Gayraud Wilmore, Dr. Jacqueline Grant, Dr. Kelley Brown Douglas, Dr. Renita Weems, Dr. Katie Cannon, Dr. Dwight Hopkins, Dr. Linda Thomas, and Dr. Randall Bailey.
These scholars, who write in various disciplines, also include seminary presidents like Dr. John Kinney and professors of Hebrew Bible, like Dr. Jerome Ross. Black liberation theology defines Africans and African Americans as subjects not the objects which colonizers and oppressors have consistently defined others as.
We [African Americans] were always seen as objects. When we started defining ourselves, it scared those who try to control others by naming them and defining them for them; Oppressors do not like others defining themselves.
To have a church whose theological perspective starts from the vantage point of Black liberation theology being its center, is not to say that African or African American people are superior to any one else.
African-centered thought, unlike Eurocentrism, does not assume superiority and look at everyone else as being inferior.
There is more than one center from which to view the world. In the words of Dr. Janice Hale, Difference does not mean deficience. It is from this vantage point that Black liberation theology speaks.
Systematized Black liberation theology is 40 years old. Scholars of African and African American religious history show that Black liberation theology, however, has been in existence for 400 years. It is found in the songs, the sermons, the testimonies and the oral literature of Africans throughout the Diaspora.
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It was ... at Trinity United Church of Christ on the South Side of Chicago that I met Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., who took me on another journey and introduced me to a man named Jesus Christ. It was the best education I ever had,
Barak Obama
"Black women are being raped daily in Africa. One white girl from Alabama gets drunk at a graduation trip to Aruba, goes off and gives it up while in a foreign country and that stays in the news for months.
Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr
White America got their wake-up call after 9-11. White America and the Western world came to realize people of color had not gone away, faded in the woodwork, or just disappeared as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns
Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr
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http://sweetness-light.com/archive/a-message-of-hate-from-obamas-pastor-via-youtube
My transcription of Rev. Wrights remarks:
God Has Got To Be Sick Of This Shit!
[Joined in progress] Justice is ignored. When women are treated like, or are permitted by this society to be called publicly "bitches," justice is ignored.
And on that note, on that note, let me paraphrase Dr. Anthony Campolo, one of the nations greatest preachers.
He said something to this effect.
Fact number one: weve got more black men in prison than there are in college.
Racism is alive and well. Racism is the American way.
Racism is how this country was founded, and how this country is still run.
No black man can ever be President. I dont care how hard you run Jesse.
No black woman will ever be considered for anything outside of what she can give with her body.
Fact number three: America is still the number one killer in the world.
We invaded Grenada for no other reason than to get Maurice Bishop. We destroyed Panama because Noriega would no longer dance to our tune anymore.
We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns and the training professional killers.
We bombed Cambodia, Iraq and Nicaragua, killing women and children, while trying to turn public opinion against Castro and Qaddafi.
Fact number four: we put Mandela in prison and supported apartheid the whole 27 years he was there.
We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority. And believe it more than we believe in God.
Fact number five: we supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians, and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic.
Fact number six: we conducted radiation experiments on our own people. Youre just finding out about that. We care nothing about human life, if the end justifies the means.
Fact number seven: we do not care if poor black and brown children cannot read and kill each other senselessly. We abandoned the cities back in the sixties when the riots started, and it really doesnt matter what those nnn [niggers] "natives" do to each other.
We gave up on them and public education for poor people who live in the projects. We with VCRs, DVDs, CDs and portable phones have more homeless than any nation in the world.
Fact number eight: we started the AIDS virus, and now that it is out of control we still put more money in the military than in medicine. More money in hate than humanitarian concerns.
Everybody does not have access to health care. I dont care what the rich white boys in the Senate say.
[Garbled] listen up. If you are poor black and elderly forget it.
Fact number nine: we only able to maintain our level of living by making sure the Third World people live in grinding poverty.
Fact number ten: we are selfish, self-centered ego egotists, who are arrogant and ignorant.
We pray at church and do not try to make the kingdom that Jesus talked about a reality.
And, and, and in light of these in fact God has got to be sick of this shit!
I wonder if he said this to Barack?
No black man can ever be President.
In light of Reverend Wrights remarks, read this article from the Chicago Tribune:
It was on the church’s website until recently.
Bits about refusing “middleclassedness” or some socialist B.S., too.
I remember the first time I checked out this Church’s website. Once I got there I had to click 3 or 4 links to find the word Jesus. That tells me all I need to know.
Note: Many young people both black and white grow up in poverty. Most do not commit crimes. Homelife (parental oversight) seems a much better excuse for criminal behavior than *an economic evironment.
"white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01" - ALL Americans got the same wake-up call. Why does the pastor of this church encourage segregation????
Africa is NOT the “cradle of civilization”. Ancient Mesopotamia (Iraq/Iran) holds that honor. The guy does not know Geography fer sho.
Clueless - maybe not.
I note that in the incredibly long excerpt you posted from this “Church’s” website the word Jesus never appears.
Why doesn’t the media report this? Hmmm.. I want whoever the repub. candidate will be to jump down his back about this. Osama hussien will be the rat candidate.
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