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Pizza driver that shot alleged robber flouted rules (Domino's CCW ban)
St. Louis Post-Dispatch ^ | 01/03/2008 | Robert Patrick

Posted on 01/04/2008 1:25:56 PM PST by newgeezer

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To: bill1952
"Name three."

I read where it happened to a police officer a few years ago. Ironic.

21 posted on 01/04/2008 1:44:56 PM PST by KoRn
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To: ASA Vet

I banned Dominos from my purchasing list years before that because of bad product.

By the way, we shouldn’t disappoint them. They expect criticism - why not give them some?

Domino’s Pizza LLC
30 Frank Lloyd Wright Drive
Ann Arbor, MI 48106
(734) 930-3030

I called and informed the customer service rep that I would be certain to avoid Dominos Pizza and that I would advise my family, friends, and business associates to also avoid Dominos. My reason was that since their spokesman Tim McIntyre had just announced to the world that it was OK to rob a Dominos Pizza driver thus turning them into crime magnets, I did not want a crime magnet on my property or at my business. As it is a known fact that criminals will stalk pizza drivers for money, I do not want to have a crime take place on or around me for personal safety reasons.

I don’t expect a call back. If you do call, make sure the CSR reads back what they have entered into their system and get a case/incident number. That will ensure that they didn’t just ignore you.


22 posted on 01/04/2008 1:45:23 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: mtairycitizen
about $10.00hr or so.

In a good area a pizza man can make $15.00 an hour. It's a between jobs or supplemental income job.

23 posted on 01/04/2008 1:45:32 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: newgeezer

This has always been Domino’s policy, of course I violated it wholesale when I was a driver for them.

Every few years a driver here gets shot and killed, by some punk thug wanna be.

Dominos can say all they want about turning over your money being the safest action... but those execs and liability attorneys and insurance policy writers aren’t the ones on the street dealing with the meth or crack addict coming after them.


24 posted on 01/04/2008 1:45:36 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Spktyr

This has always been Dominos policy... a policy that any wise driver will ignore.

Dominos CORP makes its decisions based on insurance premiums and liability lawsuit avoidance, not on the safety of its employees. The people making the calls are not the ones dealing with little miscreants with no respect for life coming after them.


25 posted on 01/04/2008 1:47:32 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Slapshot68

The source is PFTA - “Picked from the Air”


26 posted on 01/04/2008 1:48:53 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Spktyr
I spend large sum of money to buy pizza for my employees (from domino’s).No more.I’ll take my business elsewhere.
27 posted on 01/04/2008 1:49:09 PM PST by QQQQ
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To: newgeezer

He did not get fired for defending himself, as a matter of fact he didn’t even get fired, he quit.

He signed an agreement when he took the job, I believe he knew full well that he would be carrying a gun and I don’t blame him for that in that kind of job. When he had to use it he knew he broke the agreement and quit the job.

Domino’s policy is stupid but I bet most pizza places and food deliverers have the same policy. I worked for the same employer for more than 30 years and had I ever been caught with a gun on their premises I would have been fired.


28 posted on 01/04/2008 1:51:31 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: QQQQ

Make *sure* you call Dominos and explain why.

I suggest that you do not couch it in terms of “Second Amendment Rights” which these people won’t understand or care about. Explain it to them in terms of your liability (crime occurring on your property because of them) and safety (who willingly invites a crime target in??) as well as the bottom line (cannot afford to have crime targets seen near your home or business). THAT they will understand.


29 posted on 01/04/2008 1:53:33 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: newgeezer

I guess I won’t order from them any more. I want my pizza delivered by a guy in a pickup truck with a gun rack in the rear window.


30 posted on 01/04/2008 1:54:14 PM PST by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: newgeezer

I’ve refused to buy Domino’s Pizzas for several years for just this reason...


31 posted on 01/04/2008 1:55:07 PM PST by Friend_from_the_Frozen_North (If you are, as Rush would say, "A Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance" don't waste my time...)
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To: PsyOp

“with a gun rack in the rear window.”

With a GUN in it...

:0)


32 posted on 01/04/2008 1:55:38 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Graybeard58
He did not get fired for defending himself, as a matter of fact he didn’t even get fired, he quit. ...

That's all very true. I'm not sure why you thought it needed to be said, though. Was it to suggest I'm/we're being too harsh with Domino's?

33 posted on 01/04/2008 1:56:33 PM PST by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Holy Bible AND the Constitution. Words mean things.)
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To: newgeezer

Legally can they enforce this. They don’t own the cars. Do the drivers buy the pizzas from Domino’s or are they on the clock? Yeah, they can require you not bring a gun into their store but I’m not sure about your car.


34 posted on 01/04/2008 1:56:51 PM PST by CindyDawg (.)
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To: bill1952

Officer Greg Yarbrough. http://www.officer.com/web/online/Top-News-Stories/Pennsylvania-Officer-Shot-With-Own-Gun/1$36426

Cpl. Joseph Pokorny Shot with own gun in an extended stay parking lot after struggle during a traffic stop.

Michael Coscia
http://www.policeone.com/police-products/duty-gear/articles/91161/

And these are just police who have been shot by their own weapons.

Its not just cops who have this happen.

I don’t argue that you disarm a citizen, but to claim that people don’t wind up getting shot by their own guns is laughable.


35 posted on 01/04/2008 1:57:09 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: newgeezer

This has been Domino’s policy for a long time, I had a friend back in college that worked for them and carried a gun regardless of the policy. Like he said, Well if I get fired for defending myself, I’ll just trot down the street a block to the next minimum wage pizza joint...


36 posted on 01/04/2008 1:57:57 PM PST by apillar
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To: Friend_from_the_Frozen_North

I doubt any of the other pizza delivery places allow their employees to be armed either. The general rule of thumb in the often robbed industries (convenience stores, fastfood, taxis, home delivery) is unarmed and don’t fight back. The companies are afraid of getting sued but customers caught in the cross fire, they figure as long as all the bullets come from bad guys they’re safe from litigation.


37 posted on 01/04/2008 1:58:26 PM PST by discostu (a mountain is something you don't want to %^&* with)
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To: All

Businesses should never interfere with the individual right to self defense.

We need a National Right to Self Defense Act, that will allow people to defend themselves from crime with no civil or criminal retribution.

Free enterprise should never interfere w the right to self defense


38 posted on 01/04/2008 1:59:42 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Illegal Aliens are not "undocumented immigrants"....Are murderers "population control specialists"?)
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To: Hardastarboard

police had told the company, “There are too many cases in which a person’s own weapon has been used against them.””

This statement, if true, makes a perfect case for disarming the police as well. This cop is a moron.

No, no, no. The police are “real men” and they can take care of us little sheep. Lock up, hide, and just call them. All will be well.


39 posted on 01/04/2008 2:00:16 PM PST by ProfessorGage
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To: Slapshot68

“McIntyre added that police had told the company, “There are too many cases in which a person’s own weapon has been used against them.””

Then the safe thing to do when attacked with a firearm is to simply take it away from the attacker.


40 posted on 01/04/2008 2:02:56 PM PST by DBrow
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