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Pizza driver that shot alleged robber flouted rules (Domino's CCW ban)
St. Louis Post-Dispatch ^ | 01/03/2008 | Robert Patrick

Posted on 01/04/2008 1:25:56 PM PST by newgeezer

The pizza delivery driver who fatally shot a robber last week could have faced discipline over the incident had he not resigned, a Domino's spokesman said Wednesday.

Employees sign an agreement in which they agree not to carry a weapon, Domino's corporate spokesman Tim McIntyre said, a policy designed to protect both the public and employees.

"We're driving down … streets. We're going to people's homes. We're also a workplace," he said.

McIntyre added that police had told the company, "There are too many cases in which a person's own weapon has been used against them."

Domino's trains employees to minimize their risk, both before and during a robbery, McIntyre said. Drivers are told to carry a cell phone and avoid wearing jewelry or carrying valuables or more than a small amount of cash — typically $20. …

If robbers approach, drivers are told to "turn over the pizza and empty your pockets."

"The best way to save yourself from harm is to get the situation over as quickly and efficiently as possible," he said. …

Domino's also offers security training to other pizza companies to minimize everyone's risk by limiting the potential payoff to would-be delivery robbers.

The driver shot Brian Smith, 19, of the 600 block of Ferguson Avenue in Ferguson, on Dec. 27. His alleged accomplice, Rodney Reese, 18, fled with the pizzas, soda and the driver's wallet, police said, and was later charged with first-degree robbery, two counts of armed criminal action and second-degree murder because he was allegedly involved in a fatal crime.

McIntyre said any punishment would not have been "because he (the driver) defended himself. It would be because he violated a policy that he agreed to follow."

"We completely expect to be criticized," he added.

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; dominos; pizzawar
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Domino's to all criminals: "Our drivers are unarmed! Do whatever you want!"

"That's probably an experience he didn't want to confront anymore," McIntyre said.

Yeah, he probably didn't see any reason to risk his life for Domino's lawyers anymore.

1 posted on 01/04/2008 1:25:59 PM PST by newgeezer
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To: newgeezer

“McIntyre added that police had told the company, “There are too many cases in which a person’s own weapon has been used against them.””

And his source for this claim would be.....?


2 posted on 01/04/2008 1:27:17 PM PST by Slapshot68
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To: newgeezer

“There are too many cases in which a person’s own weapon has been used against them.”

LOL!! Liar. Name three.


3 posted on 01/04/2008 1:28:07 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: newgeezer
Domino's figures its liability is lower if their employee is murdered. I would never work for a company whose policy took away my lawful right of self-defense.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 01/04/2008 1:28:49 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: newgeezer

I’d say that I’d boycott Dominos... but their pizza is so bad I won’t order it anyway.


5 posted on 01/04/2008 1:29:54 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: newgeezer

Boycott Dominos....thats it.


6 posted on 01/04/2008 1:30:40 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: newgeezer

Actually, come to think of it...

We could call Domino’s HQ and explain to them that since they have just announced that all their drivers are unarmed, we do not want their unarmed crime targets bringing criminals to our houses.


7 posted on 01/04/2008 1:31:21 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: goldstategop
I would never work for a company whose policy took away my lawful right of self-defense.

Nor would you agree in writing to give away your right, like this driver did. A lot of employers have the same rule of no guns in the work place.

8 posted on 01/04/2008 1:32:17 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: newgeezer

What a buddy. His friend is shot and killed but he didn’t drop the pizzas while running away.


9 posted on 01/04/2008 1:32:33 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Abolish the CIA, give the job to the Free Clinic who know how to stop leaks.)
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To: Spktyr
I banned Domino's from my purchasing list several years ago when they fired an employee for defending himself.
10 posted on 01/04/2008 1:35:56 PM PST by ASA Vet (Does Hillary share Huma with Bill?)
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To: newgeezer
McIntyre added that police had told the company, "There are too many cases in which a person's own weapon has been used against them."

Brady Bunch Bull____.

11 posted on 01/04/2008 1:36:05 PM PST by Condor51 (I wouldn't vote for Rooty under any circumstance -- even if Waterboarded!)
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To: newgeezer

He lost his pizza delivery job. A small price to pay for one’s life.


12 posted on 01/04/2008 1:37:14 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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"We completely expect to be criticized," he added.
Well at least they got one thing right.
13 posted on 01/04/2008 1:37:24 PM PST by TennesseeProfessor
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To: Doctor Raoul
What a buddy. His friend is shot and killed but he didn’t drop the pizzas while running away.

He was hungry, okay?

14 posted on 01/04/2008 1:38:13 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

about $10.00hr or so.


15 posted on 01/04/2008 1:38:28 PM PST by mtairycitizen
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police had told the company, “There are too many cases in which a person’s own weapon has been used against them.””

This statement, if true, makes a perfect case for disarming the police as well. This cop is a moron.

16 posted on 01/04/2008 1:39:25 PM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: bill1952

Better take guns away from the kops if they are so easily turned against the one carrying them.


17 posted on 01/04/2008 1:39:29 PM PST by Defiant (Huckabee puts the goober back in gubernatorial.)
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To: newgeezer
"We completely expect to be criticized,"

And rightfully so. (G.D. wimps. Where's John Wayne when you need him?)

18 posted on 01/04/2008 1:39:51 PM PST by GreenOgre (mohammed is the false prophet of a false god.)
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To: newgeezer

in MD a sick inmate visited a hospital managed to
take guns from two officers and escape, killing
an innocent bystander in the process.

The response from MD officials. We dont need guns
in hospitals.

AHHH


19 posted on 01/04/2008 1:40:17 PM PST by mtairycitizen
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"The best way to save yourself from harm is to get the situation over as quickly and efficiently as possible," he said.

Yeah, that "best way" sure worked out well for the students at Virginia Tech.

Don't defend yourself, just give the bad guy what he wants: all your stuff and your life too. That's the best way.

*sigh* So many who don't deserve to live in the USA.

20 posted on 01/04/2008 1:43:23 PM PST by TChris (Cartels (oil, diamonds, labor) are bad. Free-market competition is good.)
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