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As this investigation has discovered, when a person dies from a hospital superbug the details are often left off the death certificate. The practice has become so widespread that last autumn the Government's chief medical officer, Sir Liam Donaldson, wrote to hospitals and doctors warning them that any dishonesty has to stop.

Coming soon to the USA if HillaryCare is allowed to be implemented.

Things here are not perfect, but any problems will be magnified exponentially under a Socialist model.

1 posted on 01/02/2008 6:29:20 PM PST by Stoat
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Cause of death: stopped breathing


2 posted on 01/02/2008 6:31:07 PM PST by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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Add Romneycare and Huckacare to that.


3 posted on 01/02/2008 6:31:55 PM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his recent Liberal Definitive Stands.)
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Or RomneyCare, or HucksterCare...

Any time you depend upon someone else to pay your bills, you remove the most useful thing needed for any medical patient - the power to go somewhere else.

Capitalism does, indeed, mean that there are different levels of care. Which would you rather have - inadequate care available to everyone, or the best care available for your situation?

4 posted on 01/02/2008 6:34:11 PM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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Where can I get me some of that ‘free health care’?


5 posted on 01/02/2008 6:35:33 PM PST by Southerngl
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The good news is ... it was FREE!


6 posted on 01/02/2008 6:37:21 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com cause of death??? he failed to reach his wellness potential.
7 posted on 01/02/2008 6:42:30 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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C. diff. is relatively contagious and expensive to treat. I’m 100% sure that this was the main cause of my grandmother’s death 2 years ago. We suspect she contracted it at the local hospital. She never had any problems while in her nursing home, but she had “the good insurance”, and the physicians and specialists kept sending her to the hospital to “run tests.” Hand sanitizers do not kill this bug on your hands. The nursing home had her in an isolation unit once she caught it. It was sad to see her go downhill so quickly. Her death certificate said she died of heart disease. She had a pacemaker, but never had any other cardiac surgery.


8 posted on 01/02/2008 6:43:41 PM PST by toothfairy86
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I have had 2 major surgeries at the University of Iowa.

The stuff being described here is unimaginable, and completely unlike what I received.


9 posted on 01/02/2008 6:45:36 PM PST by WoofDog123
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In her day the wards were scrubbed with bleach, while nurses washed their hands with soap and water before caring for a patient. If not, a strict matron wanted to know why.

This sounds less like a system that is over tasked, and more like a system with no accountability.

10 posted on 01/02/2008 6:49:19 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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How doctors lie on death certificates

I wonder if that will help my lower back problem - but wouldn't you need a whole lot to fill the mattress properly?

11 posted on 01/02/2008 6:58:33 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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I’ve read this three times and I don’t find anyone abusing sheep. You are loosing your focus Stoat.


12 posted on 01/02/2008 7:01:55 PM PST by festus (Fred Thompson '08)
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Yesterday Tory leader David Cameron said hospitals should be fined for every patient who catches an infection on their wards.

What would be the point of that in a Socialized Health System hospital?

You would simply deprive the hospital of funds to clean up the hospital.

I am guessing but I expect the reason the hospital is dirty is that it is fighting a budget crunch.

In the private sector one of the first things to go when money is tight is house keeping maintenance people.

If they want to do something about it threaten the management’s jobs. That tends to get attention where it is needed.

14 posted on 01/02/2008 7:04:33 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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Sorry, there are very few guns in the hands of individuals in England.

They have no reason to fear you, and will continue to lie with impunity.

You are subjects, not citizens.


15 posted on 01/02/2008 7:11:08 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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The catch with ‘free’ health care is that you pay for your funeral./s


16 posted on 01/02/2008 7:22:57 PM PST by tanuki (u)
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I had a CDiff infection a few years ago resulting from antibiotic use. Bad bacteria in the gut took over after the antibiotics wore off. It went mis diagnosed for a month, spent the entire time eating nothing but bananas, rice applesauce and dry toast.. I was wishing for death by the time a specialist looked at my notes, rolled her eyes and prescibed another antibiotic to clear it up. I was fine three days later, lost 45 pounds over the whole ordeal. It was the most miserable expreience of my life, basically hitting the head every hour or so for a month.


18 posted on 01/02/2008 7:52:18 PM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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bump


19 posted on 01/02/2008 8:04:48 PM PST by VOA
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yup. something else people don’t realize: you won’t be able to sue the govt if they screw up. now lawsuits are out of control, but wait until that incentive for not screwing up goes away entirely.


25 posted on 01/02/2008 9:42:16 PM PST by piytar
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C-diff is not the killer....its the dehydration perhaps that sends you to la-la land....

I just love when people say they "caught" something at a hospital....most likely, and someday it will be proved, these infections were present in that person before hospital admittance....

the origin of c-diff is perplexing...many if not most think that most of us carry it but don't come down with disease because a lot of "germs" are opportunistic....they go after the weak and the frail and the sickly.... ....

I see visitors barge right into isolation rooms without putting on gloves, gowns, or even washing their hands... these same people then go to the cafeteria or use the public bathroom...or the water fountain..

I also have had patients that DEMANDED to leave their isolation rooms and wander the hosptital...and there is not a damn thing we can do to stop them, since we are not "holding" them like a prisoner...

my advice to anyone going to a hospital...try to get a private room....don't let others use your bathroom....don't let sick people come visit you..don't have children come visit you...

why on earth with all these "superbugs" around anyone would bring their children to a hosptial to crawl on the floor etc is beyond me....

26 posted on 01/02/2008 9:53:39 PM PST by cherry
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God, this is scary.


31 posted on 01/02/2008 10:12:22 PM PST by Zeon Cowboy (Pardon Ramos and Compean NOW! // Duncan Hunter '08)
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Coming soon to the USA if HillaryCare is allowed to be implemented.

It's here now...

A Lifesaving Checklist (BUREAUCRATIC LUNACY ALERT)

41 posted on 01/04/2008 8:26:59 AM PST by null and void (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth. - M203M4)
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