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Taking shots at gun laws (VA)
Daily Press ^ | January 2, 2008 | KIMBALL PAYNE

Posted on 01/02/2008 4:24:28 PM PST by neverdem

Hampton Sen. Mamie Locke is at the forefront now of an expected wave of legislation aimed at firearms.

Expect grieving parents to talk about their slain children as they plead for stricter gun controls.

Expect passionate Second Amendment loyalists to argue that a legally armed professor could have halted the Virginia Tech massacre.

In all, expect heated discussions and passionate debates about firearms when state lawmakers return to Richmond next week.

"We could see a record number of gun bills," said Philip Van Cleave, president of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, a gun-rights group. "There should be a lot more starting to roll in. This is life-and-death stuff."

Just don't expect a whole lot of change.

"In the grand scheme of things — we'll probably get very little," said Sen. Mamie Locke, D-Hampton, who has filed a pair of bills that would allow communities to tighten firearm restrictions, including allowing them to ban guns in libraries. "I don't know what it's going to take, but at the very least, I expect there to be more attention on the issue."

The General Assembly convenes in Richmond on Jan. 9. Experts are awaiting a wave of debate about gun laws in large part because of the mass shooting at Virginia Tech, where 32 students and faculty members were killed by a mentally ill gunman who also killed himself. Some victims' families are planning to head to Richmond to put a face on the tragedy and push for increased controls and tougher background checks on gun buyers.

Couple that with the fact that Democrats now control the committee system in the Senate, thanks to Election Day wins in November, and guns are bound to be a hot topic.

But don't wait for every proposal to simply offer a different way to tighten restrictions...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailypress.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; chovtech; vageneralassembly; vcdl; virginiatech
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1 posted on 01/02/2008 4:24:28 PM PST by neverdem
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Typical.

Murder leads to guns being banned.

Rape leads to what?


2 posted on 01/02/2008 4:27:11 PM PST by Sir Hailstone (I'm a Dollar-a-Day FReeper. Are you? Target Acquired: Indiana's 7th Congressional District)
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To: Corin Stormhands
BANG!
3 posted on 01/02/2008 4:35:47 PM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem
Expect grieving parents to talk about their slain children as they plead for stricter gun controls.

Expect passionate Second Amendment loyalists to argue that a legally armed professor could have halted the Virginia Tech massacre.

They should solicit testimony from those who were saved by virtue of being armed. We should also hear from victims' relatives who wish that their loved one had been armed.

4 posted on 01/02/2008 5:09:33 PM PST by Ken H
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To: neverdem

“I don’t know what it’s going to take...”

Clearly, Mr. Hampton is right on this point as he is pushing yet another gun free zone law. Will these idiots ever learn?


5 posted on 01/02/2008 5:19:11 PM PST by Radio_Silence
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To: Sir Hailstone

You don’t want to know.


6 posted on 01/02/2008 5:21:35 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Radio_Silence
"Sen. Mamie Locke, D-Hampton, who has filed a pair of bills that would allow communities to tighten firearm restrictions, including allowing them to ban guns in libraries."

Is this a big problem in Hampton, people shooting each other in libraries?

7 posted on 01/02/2008 5:22:10 PM PST by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: boop

Probably not.

But Mr. Hampton is just passing useless bills knowing they will have no impact so he can go tell his base how much he has done to fight the scourge that is gun violence etc etc.

All of the liberals that don’t know a thing about guns or can’t understand the concept that a window sticker proclaiming a “gun free zone” will not prevent violent behavior will cheer this idiot for “putting the safety of the children ahead of the gun industry and the evil NRA.”

Same old stuff from the left.


8 posted on 01/02/2008 5:28:02 PM PST by Radio_Silence
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To: Radio_Silence

My apologies to Mr. Locke. Just realized I misread his name. I’ll at least now know to watch out for this idiot at the national level should he ever go anywhere.


9 posted on 01/02/2008 5:29:39 PM PST by Radio_Silence
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To: neverdem; EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; GeorgeW23225; ...
"We could see a record number of gun bills," said Philip Van Cleave, president of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, a gun-rights group. "There should be a lot more starting to roll in. This is life-and-death stuff."

Gee Phil, if you hadn't been in such a snit about Jerry Kilgore not kissing your butt, you just might have had a Governor who would veto those bills. You took credit for helping him lose.

See how Governor Kaine helps you out.

10 posted on 01/02/2008 5:58:02 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (Is it 2012 yet?)
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To: Radio_Silence
My apologies to Mr. Locke. Just realized I misread his name.

Ummm...just so you know, it would be Miz Locke.

11 posted on 01/02/2008 5:59:21 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (Is it 2012 yet?)
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To: Radio_Silence

Who is Mr. Hampton?


12 posted on 01/02/2008 6:17:29 PM PST by concretebob (If liberals aren't traitors, their only defense at this point is they are incredibly stupid)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Gee Phil, if you hadn't been in such a snit about Jerry Kilgore not kissing your butt, you just might have had a Governor who would veto those bills. You took credit for helping him lose. See how Governor Kaine helps you out.

OUCH!!!!!!
Better put some ice on that, Phil.

13 posted on 01/02/2008 6:19:32 PM PST by concretebob (If liberals aren't traitors, their only defense at this point is they are incredibly stupid)
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To: Sir Hailstone
Rape leads to what?

Well, by this logic, we'll all have to cut our thingys off. That way women will be safe.

14 posted on 01/02/2008 6:48:19 PM PST by Sender (You are the weapon. What you hold in your hand is just a tool.)
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To: concretebob; Corin Stormhands

Ya beat me to it.....but in my defense I was working tonight :)

Dear ole Phil is not going to be getting much support from this household. Of course we will be opposing any anti-2A stuff that comes down the pike, but our main focus will be on the anti-private property crapola that will be being railroaded through Richmond.

I like and vocally and actively supported Jerry Kilgore over the Eyebrow, but his wife is in my scope....and I am quite close to being a bullseye sharpshooter.


15 posted on 01/02/2008 7:08:24 PM PST by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: neverdem
Expect passionate Second Amendment loyalists to argue that a legally armed professor could have halted the Virginia Tech massacre.

Actually if VT were not a "gun free campus" the perp most likely would not have considered his foray at all. Being a GFC and loudly advertising it gave him security for his procedure ahead of time.

16 posted on 01/02/2008 7:36:24 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: Radio_Silence
Will these idiots ever learn?

Maybe they are actually population reduction fanatics and anything that works is to be promoted.

17 posted on 01/02/2008 7:37:56 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: boop
Is this a big problem in Hampton, people shooting each other in libraries?

No, but it could become one if this bill becomes law.

18 posted on 01/02/2008 7:39:07 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I have had this same discussion with Phil. I think he is slowly coming around, but he’s a stubborn idealist. I wouldn’t put too much weight into VCDL’s impact on elections, specially statewide. Sure we have been very effective at lobbying, local elections and in holding local government’s feet to the fire, but statewide, most of VCDL’s membership is concerned with other issues as well. We all don’t vote the way PVC would have you believe we do. There were many factors to Kilgore’s loss, VCDL was a very small one. Phil over stressed VCDL’s importance in that one.


19 posted on 01/03/2008 1:28:47 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I have an idea. They could make it illegal for a criminal to possess a gun! Everyone knows criminals obey the law!


20 posted on 01/03/2008 2:20:32 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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