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I searched a few different ways for this two-bagger, so if it's already been posted, my apologies, I couldn't find it. Have at it.

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1 posted on 01/02/2008 11:18:11 AM PST by Moose4
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To: Moose4

I was just in Arizona over Christmas. The word on the ground is that self-deportion is, in fact, happening.


2 posted on 01/02/2008 11:25:47 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Head and proud of it! Fear the Fred!)
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It's wishful thinking to think that the solution to our immigration woes is to simply expect the condemned to carry out their own executions.

So this nimrod actually thinks Mexico is so bad as to liken it to suicide?

This begs the question: Why does he want to duplicate it here?

3 posted on 01/02/2008 11:25:58 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Moose4

No, the stupidest idea I’ve ever heard is wasting time reading an article by this complete moron.


4 posted on 01/02/2008 11:25:59 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (We've checked, and all your zeroes are OK. We're still working on your ones.)
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‘’Restrictionists’’? That’s a new one. I suppose people who are for Jessica’s Law are ‘’child-molester restrictionists’’, or those who favor the death penalty are ‘’murderer restrictionists’’.

Maybe we should just start calling the pro-illegal alien propagandists ‘’law-abiding taxpaying American restrictionists’’. Nah...


5 posted on 01/02/2008 11:28:58 AM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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He has contempt for pampered Americans. How can we blame him?

But beyond that, this will destroy America. The new “illegal citizens” hate their new country and have contempt for the “legal citizens”.

Sounds like a civil war is coming.

He is right about the exit from Arizona. I haven’t seen any evidence of it.


6 posted on 01/02/2008 11:31:21 AM PST by donna (They hand off my culture & citizenship to criminals & then call me racist for objecting?)
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Hmm. I suppose that he’s never heard of attrition in companies either. Things get bad enough and people leave without being told to get out.


7 posted on 01/02/2008 11:31:31 AM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy in 2008.)
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To: Moose4
Self-deporting immigrants a fantasy

Right Ruben, they all self deported from Mexico and wherever else they came from.

Why is it a fantasy to think they will again self deport?

8 posted on 01/02/2008 11:31:58 AM PST by RJL
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Of course, there is always the chance that Americans -- especially those in their teens and 20s -- will step in and fill the void by leaving their air-conditioned homes, video games, and $3 coffees and going to work in 110-degree weather.

Or maybe work as a guest commentator. Obviously the requirements are not that onerous.

17 posted on 01/02/2008 12:07:53 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Jay Grodner stands accused of keying a Marine's car. He's also a lawyer.)
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19 posted on 01/02/2008 12:21:25 PM PST by gubamyster
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I’ve listened to Ruben Navarette being interviewed on the radio a couple of times. What’s the nicest way to put this. He’s not the, uh, sharpest tool in the shed.


24 posted on 01/02/2008 12:48:04 PM PST by joebuck
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Methinks that this guy would deny the evidence if his nose was rubbed in it,

which is, figuratively, what has happened to him.

It’s not just Arizona, and it’s not a coincidence, that when immigration laws are enforced, illegals decide to go home.


25 posted on 01/02/2008 12:50:53 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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His column is incoherent. He admits people are going back to Mexico, but says its an annual phenomenon. He’s right, actually, we see it here, when the farms aren’t hiring, people go back to Mexico for a few months, and then return in the spring.

But thats mostly for the legal residents, for them a trip home and a return in the spring is no big deal. Illegals, especially now, can’t afford to go home because they probably can’t get back across. So if illegals are going home, it truly is a “self-deportation”.

Another incoherency is his belief that only Mexicans, and of them only illegal Mexicans are willing to do manual labor in Arizona. This is plainly silly, if you work in the construction trades in the southwest hot and cold weather go with the territory. If the illegals aren’t there, there may be some upward pressure on wages, but that is a good thing, not a bad thing. And if you admit that the absence of illegals mean higher labor costs then you have to admit the corollary, that the presence of illegal workers depresses wages for the legal workers.

If there are some jobs that latte-sipping yuppies won’t do, at the price offered, then contractors may be forced to bump their wages a bit to compete with other work. That is not a bad thing. We don’t want a world in which some people are forced to do hard jobs due to their immigration status, we want a world in which people compete for the hard jobs because they are the best paid jobs. You can’t get there until you eliminate illegal labor.


30 posted on 01/02/2008 1:15:04 PM PST by marron
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Every Christmas, many illegal immigrants head home to reacquaint themselves with mama's cooking and play Santa Claus by showering relatives with gifts.

That's true. This time of year, they're all heading back to Mexico to visit for the holidays. In a week or two, they'll all be back whether Arizona or any of us wants them or not.

31 posted on 01/02/2008 1:50:46 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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At firstI thought this might be worth clicking on but then I saw it was from CNN.


33 posted on 01/02/2008 2:44:25 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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35 posted on 01/02/2008 5:09:11 PM PST by devolve (---- - Hey Boone! - My bonus check is late again! -)
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Many of those who say they've had a bellyful of illegal immigration claim that, if we dried up the jobs, illegal immigrants would simply "self-deport."

There's more to it than that, Ruben. Cutting off the welfare goodies and ending birthright citizenship must be done in conjunction.

And laws that make it a felony to harbor, transport or aid illegal immigrants help as well.

41 posted on 01/02/2008 8:54:58 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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Of course, there is always the chance that Americans -- especially those in their teens and 20s -- will step in and fill the void by leaving their air-conditioned homes, video games, and $3 coffees and going to work in 110-degree weather.
Howabout the bloated Navarrette put on 60 lbs of gear and pay a visit to 120-degree Iraq alongside our soldiers?
45 posted on 01/03/2008 11:38:24 AM PST by ruination
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