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Businesses feel early pinch of workers law
East Valley Tribune ^ | 29 December, 2007 | Lindsay Butler

Posted on 12/29/2007 8:12:48 AM PST by HungarianGypsy

Bad. Bad. Bad. That’s how Mesa business owner Ramon Quintana describes the crisis facing Hispanic-oriented companies as people in the Latino community lose their jobs and flee the area for friendlier frontiers.

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The problem comes from a mix of fear of recent immigration arrests and the pending crackdown on employers who hire illegal residents.

Hispanic-oriented businesses are paying the price.

At the height of the Christmas shopping season, some businesses reported less than half the revenue they had last Christmas.

Those who remain are struggling to pay the rent, both on their homes and businesses.

“Everybody is complaining,” Quintana said.

And the situation is only going to get worse, he said.

EMPTY STORES

The windows at U-Care Thrift Store are still plastered with “Happy Holidays” and “Peace on Earth Good Will to All,” a merry message compared with the story on the other side of the glass.

Neighbors say the owner fled about a month ago, leaving rows of clothing racks and a store full of merchandise behind.

A sign on the door says the landlord has seized the store “due to the tenant’s failure to pay rent.”

U-Care Thrift Store is the third shop on the corner of Main Street and Stapley Drive to close.

Quik Cash payday loans and a former party store are already empty.

Those probably won’t be the last to close on that corner, Quintana said. Other vendors tell him they worry about making the rent.

Quintana retired from the California construction business and moved to Mesa about a year ago to help his friend run the Carniceria Murrieta’s stores.

At the Main and Stapley location on Thursday, the store was empty save for the occasional visitor.

“Last year the lines were out the door,” Quintana said.

Shoppers who would usually come in to buy 5 pounds of meat are opting to buy half a pound at a time.

Yolanda Gutierrez, who works at Mesa men’s store Shoes Town, said Christmas numbers were way down this year.

“They were 50 percent off,” she said.

And though they still see patrons, Gutierrez said customers come in and don’t buy anything.

Carniceria Murrieta’s, Rancho Grande market, Food City — the clients at those stores are 90 percent to 95 percent Mexican, Quintana estimated.

“What are those stores going to do?” he said.

Right now it’s bad, Quintana said, but after Jan. 1, it’s “going all the way down.” 'NO MORE ARIZONA’

Tuesday marks the start of the Legal Arizona Workers Act, also referred to as the employer sanctions law, which will punish employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants by suspending or revoking their business licenses.

Business owners are encouraged to check job applicants’ eligibility through a system called E-Verify, an electronic federal database of Social Security numbers.

Quintana said he is waiting to see what will happen after the law goes into effect, but others don’t have that luxury.

He said he knows people who are being fired from their jobs in anticipation of the new law. “Sometimes they’ve been working there for 10 or 15 years, and they’re getting fired,” he said.

With no income, people are moving from Arizona to nearby states or Mexico to find work. Some have lost their houses, not able to make the mortgage, Quintana said.

Many of them have lived in Arizona for a long time, Gutierrez said.

The most popular states seem to be New Mexico, Idaho, Colorado and Utah.

Anywhere but here.

“No more Arizona,” Gutierrez said.

And though moving to Mexico is a gamble when it comes to work, it’s worth it to some, Quintana said.

“At least in Mexico, you may be poor, but you can do stuff and not be scared,” he said. “There’s no fear that Arpaio is going to come get them.”

'THEY ARE SCARED’

In the past two months, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has dispatched squads of deputies into Mesa to enforce immigration laws.

Deputies arrested dozens of suspected illegal immigrants in Mesa after stopping vehicles on suspicion of traffic violations.

Meanwhile, the Mesa City Council has sent a letter to the Department of Homeland Security requesting information on training city police officers to act as immigration officers.

If Mesa receives the funds, only officers who serve in city detention facilities would be trained — it would not include patrol officers.

Maria Elena Martinez has run a discoteca CD store near Broadway and Dobson roads for seven years.

“They are scared” of Arpaio’s measures, she said. “All the people in the area.”

Her business has posted withering numbers for November and December.

What is she going to do?

“I don’t know.”


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; enforcement; hispanics; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration
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1 posted on 12/29/2007 8:12:51 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: HungarianGypsy

Boo Hoo.

That’s what you get for hiring ILLEGAL workers..


2 posted on 12/29/2007 8:15:24 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: HungarianGypsy

Illegals Go Home


3 posted on 12/29/2007 8:15:47 AM PST by Lexington Green (There ain't no news in the news no more.)
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To: HungarianGypsy
Bad. Bad. Bad. That’s how Mesa business owner Ramon Quintana describes the crisis facing Hispanic-oriented companies as people in the Latino community lose their jobs and flee the area for friendlier frontiers..... Those who remain are struggling to pay the rent, both on their homes and businesses. “Everybody is complaining,” Quintana said. And the situation is only going to get worse, he said.


I can't find my Violin so this will have to do...


4 posted on 12/29/2007 8:17:52 AM PST by Condor51 (I wouldn't vote for Rooty under any circumstance -- even if Waterboarded!)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


5 posted on 12/29/2007 8:18:01 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: HungarianGypsy

And, this is a problem how??


6 posted on 12/29/2007 8:18:20 AM PST by ozaukeemom (Nuke the ACLU and their snivel rights)
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To: HungarianGypsy

Good news.

Those businesses which exploit the illegal immigrants SHOULD feel the pinch.

Not only will those who are breaking the laws be affected when our laws are enforced, but also those opportunists who exploit the illegals, by charging too much for inferior goods, charging huge fees for check cashing, etc.

Good riddance.


7 posted on 12/29/2007 8:19:11 AM PST by i_dont_chat (Your choice if you take offense.)
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To: Lexington Green

The American people are also scared of the crime, stealing and the disease from the Illegal Aliens...time to get out of our country!


8 posted on 12/29/2007 8:19:39 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: HungarianGypsy

I just feel so sad. /s


9 posted on 12/29/2007 8:19:52 AM PST by muggs
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To: Bigh4u2
That’s what you get for hiring ILLEGAL workers..

yeah. oh, how I love little morsels that pass for logic.

Supply, demand. Demand, supply. Increase the demand, and lo, the supply rises to meet it.

Increase the need for labor, and either a) the labor will come or b) the demand will succumb.

In the not so distant future it will be argued what exactly killed the longest economic expansion in history. Some brave soul will postulate it was the skyrocketing labor costs that resulted in the shut off of the labor supply.

Bemoan offshoring all you want; you will always have something to bemoan as long you deport your labor supply.

Think about it, no matter how painful and unfamiliar that process will be.

10 posted on 12/29/2007 8:21:28 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (whose spirit is hillary channelling these days?)
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To: HungarianGypsy

Consequesnces of getting greedy and demanding “entitlements.” Go home and make demands on your own government! Take your Mexican flags and materials printed in Spanish with you!


11 posted on 12/29/2007 8:23:21 AM PST by lonestar
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To: HungarianGypsy

Houston Astroworld closed it’s doors recently. The reason given was that is was more profitable to sell the real estate. Although, I had heard that Latino gangs had been coming into the park and fighting. I suspect Astroworld didn’t want the liabilty. I say GOOD RIDDANCE to illegals.


12 posted on 12/29/2007 8:23:38 AM PST by BeckB
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To: HungarianGypsy

At least in Mexico, you may be poor, but you can do stuff and not be scared,” he said. “There’s no fear that Arpaio is going to come get them.”


The system works...................


13 posted on 12/29/2007 8:24:39 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: HungarianGypsy
And though they still see patrons, Gutierrez said customers come in and don’t buy anything.

Carniceria Murrieta’s, Rancho Grande market, Food City — the clients at those stores are 90 percent to 95 percent Mexican, Quintana estimated.

“What are those stores going to do?” he said.

Um...develop a business plan that doesn't rely on illegal alien customers?

It amazes me how many people think that if a profit has been earned in the past, it should be guaranteed in the future by the government.

14 posted on 12/29/2007 8:25:31 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: HungarianGypsy

This is called justice.

Go home, illegal immigrants. You want to come back? Fine, we have nothing against you personally, just come back legally. In the meantime, get out and stay out.

Why aren’t we doing this nationally?


15 posted on 12/29/2007 8:26:25 AM PST by Malleus Dei ("Democrats are just Communists with a little more patience.")
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To: HungarianGypsy

Simple answer to their problem: Get the hell out of my country!


16 posted on 12/29/2007 8:27:54 AM PST by ought-six
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To: HungarianGypsy
Oh WAAAA ... llegals va a casa
17 posted on 12/29/2007 8:29:06 AM PST by clamper1797 (Fred Thompson - Duncan Hunter for POTUS and Vice Potus in either order)
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To: HungarianGypsy

Perhaps “Ramon” has ulterior motives for his concerns.


18 posted on 12/29/2007 8:30:47 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: HungarianGypsy

bump


19 posted on 12/29/2007 8:31:03 AM PST by VOA
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To: BeckB
astroworld had a few issues but the gangs where a big one.

oh noes poor illegals might have to stop living under the radar and either move...get legal(weird concept)...or go home.

damn heartless repubs...wanting like laws in stuff to be upheld.

not like those caring and sweet LAWmakers in the dem party to whome immigration laws are...sometimes laws...relative laws...non-law laws.

20 posted on 12/29/2007 8:31:26 AM PST by Casaubon (Internet Research Ninja Masta)
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