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Exclusive: Ron Paul to make third party run on Constitution Party ticket
Modern Conservative ^ | Christopher Cook

Posted on 12/27/2007 6:02:59 AM PST by connell

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To: Rb ver. 2.0

It’s a lot of desperate, wishful thinking on our part to think that Ron is yanking support from the left.

Dont be silly, people.

Ron is yanking support from the intellectual and instinctive libertarian wings of the GOP. It’s the instinctive libertarians that are powering his 2-6 % support per state, guys that take the ‘dont tread on me’ thing seriously but dont think much beyond that, and see the GOP morphing into an authoritarian party of public morals nags.

Talk about destroying the GOP brand name with John Q ...

Elections are won at the margins. Look at the state by state breakdowns from ‘04, ‘00, ‘96 ... it dosent matter how far you go back, it’s all 49-51, 48-52 % vote splits. That’s why 3rd party candidates can take down an entire GOP or DEM candidacy ... that 1 or 2 % support the 3rd party candidate grabs is enough to flip a state over the other side.

Is Ron really p.o’d enough at the collapse of small government conservatism that he’s willing to take down the whole party in ‘08? I dont really know that much about the man beyond everyone here insisting he’s insane.


61 posted on 12/27/2007 6:31:33 AM PST by skipper18 (Freshmeat!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A vote for this guys is nothing more than a vote for dims.Anyone remember what percent perot took first time around?


62 posted on 12/27/2007 6:31:56 AM PST by weldAllday (RonPaul=RossPerot=Clintoon)
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To: GOP_Proud
I wish the Paulie WalNUTS would get that.

They will never see it because it is "personality cult" following. Its very similar to Romney's following. They are so enamored with the idea of the candidate (vice the ideas) that, in a state of denial, they can't see the candidate is a losing proposition. In Ron Paul's case because he is a nut and in Romney's case because he is a lying, flip-flopping, big-government liberal.

63 posted on 12/27/2007 6:33:17 AM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: connell
At one time in the past I seriously considered supporting the Constitution Party.

If this is true(concerning LRon), they just fell off of my map.

64 posted on 12/27/2007 6:33:37 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: skipper18
It’s a lot of desperate, wishful thinking on our part to think that Ron is yanking support from the left.

I believe you are exactly right, sir. It's exactly what has me worried.
65 posted on 12/27/2007 6:33:54 AM PST by connell (I will not cease from mental fight, nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Excellent summary grandma.

have had a disdain for the CP ever since I got sucked into supporting them and then when I realized that they are nothing but a bunch of political opportunists who prey on suckers, like me, who part with their hard-earned money and dump it down a black hole.

Their ads here in Iowa during the 2000 and 2004 elections were aimed at defeating Bush--not Gore and Kerrey. They were trying to convince me (and other gullible voters) that Bush was more dangerous than Gore and Kerry. They're nuts.

They have never won an election and they will never win an election. It's very easy to stand there beating your breast and asking the nation to believe that you are morally superior, knowing full well, you will never have to prove anything because you're never going to have to deliver on your promises.

The CP can go take a flying leap and the only people they can help are the Democrats. Suckers!!!

66 posted on 12/27/2007 6:34:13 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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To: skipper18
Is Ron really p.o’d enough at the collapse of small government conservatism that he’s willing to take down the whole party in ‘08?

All those internet polls he is winning and those millions pouring into his campaign can have a huge effect on a man's ego.

67 posted on 12/27/2007 6:34:26 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: The_Victor

No doubt, RP is an idiot in foreign affairs, why would the Constitution party rally around a clown?


68 posted on 12/27/2007 6:34:52 AM PST by Issaquahking (N.H. FNC Debate "What did you do for America today?" Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: skipper18

But in the past few months of pissing and moaning about Paul here at FR very few people have said he has any republican support, now people are saying he does?


69 posted on 12/27/2007 6:35:04 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: Revelation 911; traviskicks; Extremely Extreme Extremist; George W. Bush; billbears

Ya’ll might want to take a look at this.


70 posted on 12/27/2007 6:35:16 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: skipper18

Great Post! (#61) I guess all we can hope for is a similar run by a Nader-type on the dem side.


71 posted on 12/27/2007 6:35:38 AM PST by Taylor
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To: connell
He will suck up more lefty Dem votes than Republican.

Ralph Nader Reduex.

72 posted on 12/27/2007 6:35:47 AM PST by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Do you support Ron Paul? Are you a Democrat?


73 posted on 12/27/2007 6:35:50 AM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: connell

I don’t see it having much of an effect on the Republicans, Libertarians hardly ever get around to voting for Republicans. That is just a ruse they use so that their candidates can masquerade as Republicans. When Rupual loses the nomination they will more than likely sit at home or vote dummycrat.


74 posted on 12/27/2007 6:37:32 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: GulfBreeze

“Can I say something here?”

Hey GB...Told ya, this was going to happen...This will be the nail that drives us to stating, and hearing the phrase “Madam President”...Come Jan. 2009...

Thanks Ron...You’re a real peach.../sarc


75 posted on 12/27/2007 6:37:40 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Grampa Dave
It's very easy to stand there beating your breast and asking the nation to believe that you are morally superior, knowing full well, you will never have to prove anything because you're never going to have to deliver on your promises.

We had a CP candidate run in Pennsylvania against Rick Santorum. Like Ron Paul, he attacked the Republican far more than the Democrat. While the CP candidate only siphoned off a 1% or so of the vote, the campaign ads smeared Santorum horribly while ignoring our new democrat Senator Casey.

76 posted on 12/27/2007 6:38:44 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: HerrBlucher

The only reason why Paul hasn’t been discredited more is that he is largely under the radar for the rest of the country. The more people hear him, the more they will know that he is a looney nut! Fortunately, there isn’t enough neo-nazi loons in this country to help this guy get anywhere!


77 posted on 12/27/2007 6:39:00 AM PST by gbscott1954 (Go Fred!)
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To: connell

You know if we united behind one Republican we could still win... oh perish the thought... RINOs need to be taught a lesson otherwise they’ll take over the party... I will not vote for (insert RINO name here) no matter what! I didn’t leave the party the party left me. Bwahahahaha! She’s playing us like a fiddle. So who will Hillary’s Secretary of State be? Will she create a new cabinet position? How about her first and maybe second Supreme Court nominee?


78 posted on 12/27/2007 6:39:06 AM PST by rhombus
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To: GOP_Proud

Paul’s support is from the anti war left with a sprinkling of right wing dead-enders. I attended a Paul event here in NH and the parking lot was full of Kucinich/Peace/No Nukes/Etc bumpa sticks.

He is by far more of a threat to Hillary than the GOP niminee — where Hil is considered “pro-war” to the far lefties.


79 posted on 12/27/2007 6:39:08 AM PST by nhwingut
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To: umgud

He’d do it for the same reason anyone does it ... to spark a viable 3rd party in the US to break up the stranglehold the 2 parties have on our electoral system.

I can see why they’d be motivated to do it ... look at how close the 2 parties are on like 90 % of everything. It’s given us this ridiculous system where personality conflicts between candidates are substituted for policy differences. Lots of screaming, nastiness, childishness .. it’s indecent and probably one of the main resaons our culture has become so course and nasty. When the people being held up as ‘leaders’ operate like 3rd graders, it has an effect on the rest of us, no?

I hope Ron dosent do this. This election is already an uphill fight for us.


80 posted on 12/27/2007 6:39:54 AM PST by skipper18 (Freshmeat!)
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