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Former GOP Chairman: NH Republicans, don't be fooled by Mitt Romney
Manchester Union Leader ^ | 12/26/2007 | JIM RUBENS

Posted on 12/26/2007 9:51:16 PM PST by Ol' Sparky

WARNINGS ARE written like a billboard all over Mitt Romney. He has used his fortune to buy the most transparently shameless act of political plastic surgery I've ever seen. His blatant flip flops on a laundry list of key issues are pure calculation to win conservative votes. His loose regard for truth puts him in league with Bill and Hillary Clinton.

To measure Mitt Romney's allegiance to our party, look no further than the words of top Massachusetts Republicans who have seen him in operation over four years.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Paul Cellucci, former state treasurer Joe Malone, former state GOP Chairman Jim Rappaport and three of Massachusetts' five Republican state senators all oppose Mitt Romney (and support Rudy Giuliani, as I do). "I think a lot of people in the state definitely feel abandoned," said Senate Republican leader Richard Tisei. "Gov. Romney spent three of the four years of his governorship out of state running for President."

In 2006, Massachusetts Republicans did not even run candidates in 130 of 200 legislative seats and in seven of 10 congressional districts. The Green-Rainbow Party put up more candidates for statewide office than Republicans. "The Massachusetts Republican Party died last Tuesday [Nov. 7, 2006] . . . In lieu of flowers, send messages to New Hampshire Republican voters warning them about a certain presidential candidate named Romney," editorialized the Boston Herald.

Consider the timing of Mitt Romney's flips: are they evidence of late-blooming enlightenment or political calculation?

-- Illegal Immigration. In a November 30, 2005, interview with The Boston Globe, Romney called the elements of the McCain-Kennedy immigration bill "reasonable proposals." By March 2007, finger to the wind, Romney was roundly denouncing the same bill.

-- Casino gambling. Campaigning for governor in 2002, Mitt Romney indicated his support for slots casinos in Massachusetts. He flipped on Sept. 16, 2005, when Iowa conservatives threatened to boycott his campaign fundraisers.

-- Abortion. In his 2002 governor's race, Romney's platform stated, "The choice to have an abortion is a deeply personal one. Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not the government's." In a July 26, 2005, Boston Globe op-ed, Romney wrote, "I am pro-life. I believe that abortion is the wrong choice except in cases of incest, rape, and to save the life of the mother. . . . I believe that the states . . . should determine their own abortion laws."

-- Gay and lesbian issues. "We must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern," Romney wrote in 1994. Romney promised to outdo Ted Kennedy by winning "full equality" for gays and lesbians, by opposing a federal constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, and by advocating gays serving openly in the military. During his 2002 campaign for governor, Romney distributed flyers at a gay pride parade reaffirming his support. Then, on Dec. 14, 2006, Mitt Romney announced his flip on gay issues in an interview with National Review.

-- Global warming. On Nov. 7, 2005, Gov. Romney touted the 30 months and half a million dollars his administration had spent shaping the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative, which will reduce global warming gas pollution by 10 percent by 2019. "I'm convinced it is good business," said Romney. On Dec. 14, 2005, one hour before clearing the way for his presidential ambitions by announcing that he would not run again for governor, Mitt Romney abruptly pulled Massachusetts out of the agreement, saying it would be bad for business.

-- Health care mandate. In 2005, Gov. Romney proposed and in 2006 signed into law an under-funded universal health care plan, including a mandate that all individuals lacking it buy health insurance, substantially similar to Hillary Clinton's proposed plan. On the stump in 2007, Romney reversed and now opposes his own plan and its central feature, the insurance mandate.

Republicans willing to grant Romney a full pass on his litany of flips may be more disturbed by his slick treatment of the truth. For example: "I've been a hunter pretty much all my life," Romney told a gun rights activist in Keene in April. It turns out Romney has hunted only twice in his life, once when he was 15 and again at 60.

Likewise, earlier this year, Romney said, "I have a gun of my own." When questioned two days later, he admitted that, while his son owned a gun, he did not.

And finally, "My father and I marched with Martin Luther King Jr. through the streets of Detroit," Romney told The Boston Globe in 1978. The story was adjusted as of December 2007, when he said that he "saw" his father march with MLK. Both claims are false. In attempting to explain his way out, Mitt Romney turns ominously Clintonian: "If you look at the literature, if you look at the dictionary, the term 'saw' includes being aware of in the sense I've described."

It is impossible to determine what Mitt Romney believes. He cannot be trusted to stick with his promises or positions on the major issues. If Republicans allow Mitt Romney to win on Jan. 8, we will have abjectly failed our single most persuasive claim to the first primary: that we are scrupulous in uncovering the real candidate and that we cannot be fooled.

Jim Rubens is a former chairman of the New Hampshire Republican Party platform committee and was a state senator from 1994 to 1998.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; chameleon; charlatan; classpresident; election; elections; falseteeth; flipflopper; hairspray; leopard; liar; newcomer; nh2008; rino; romney; smokenmirrors
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Republicans from Willard's part of the country that know him best like know Romney is a liar.

It's amazing any thinking conservative or Republican could vote for someone so blatantly dishonest.

1 posted on 12/26/2007 9:51:19 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky
It's amazing any thinking conservative or Republican could vote for someone so blatantly dishonest.

Yeah, but remember, Willard isn't just a liar, he's a GOOD liar - he fools a lot of people, even a lot of FReepers, with his position du jour approach to politics.

2 posted on 12/26/2007 9:56:18 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (I am free to worship God as I see fit, regardless of what the US military does.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
The whole rotten bunch of them (except Duncan Hunter, and maybe Thompson) can all take a 50-yard dash off a 40-yard long pier, as far as I am concerned this year.

What a horrendous choice this time around . What a bunch of liars.

3 posted on 12/26/2007 9:58:31 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo ("Dear Conservative, thanks for buying our "But, he CAN'T WIN!!" propaganda. Love, The Lib MSM")
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Dittos..... Mitt, Rudy, Mike are fake conservatives.
4 posted on 12/26/2007 10:01:29 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

5 posted on 12/26/2007 10:01:47 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo ("Dear Conservative, thanks for buying our "But, he CAN'T WIN!!" propaganda. Love, The Lib MSM")
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To: Ol' Sparky

You would think Paul Wyrich, James Dobson, and Tom Tancredo would look at his record before endorsing him!


6 posted on 12/26/2007 10:02:20 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

HGDS (Hillary/Giuliani Derangement Syndrome.)


7 posted on 12/26/2007 10:03:36 PM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his recent Liberal Definitive Stands.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Great news for Mitt Romney. This kind of nonsense is just plain silly.


8 posted on 12/26/2007 10:04:11 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: Ol' Sparky

You would think Paul Wyrich, James Dobson, and Tom Tancredo would look at his record before endorsing him!

Turning the Republican Party into the 3rd Party in Massachusetts with no candidates fielded in many races and didn’t raise money for other candidates is another bad mark on Romney.

When the left starts the demogogary game Mitt will cave worse than Bush and join in.


9 posted on 12/26/2007 10:05:17 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: Saundra Duffy

Romney needs to be defeated .


10 posted on 12/26/2007 10:09:01 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Just Say No to Romney and the rest of the RINO's - VOTE FRED !)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Cool. An Abortiani supporter bashing Flip Romney. We need a LOT more of this kind of thing. I’m hoping these guys can drag each other down and let a real conservative win the GOP nomination.


11 posted on 12/26/2007 10:10:22 PM PST by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Sour grapes from Massachusetts losers who are trying to blame their own political misfortunes on Romney.

Yawn.

12 posted on 12/26/2007 10:11:11 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Ol' Sparky

Ouch. And yikes.


13 posted on 12/26/2007 10:13:23 PM PST by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: Ol' Sparky

“It is impossible to determine what Mitt Romney believes.”


This is why when someone starts looking at him as a candidate, they often finish by not only not choosing him, but by being repulsed by him.


14 posted on 12/26/2007 10:14:02 PM PST by ansel12 (Washington:I cannot tell a lie,Clinton:I cannot tell the truth,Romney:I cannot tell the difference.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Jim Rubens now blogs for The Huffington Post.

His bio on that Web site says:

“Jim Rubens supports Rudy Giuliani for President.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-rubens/#blogger_bio

“Jim Rubens dropped out of Dartmouth College to join a commune and start a recycling center, then dropped back in to grow and sell about 10 businesses. He then got involved in politics, chairing the platform committee for the national Independence Party in 1992 (before being ousted in a Ross Perot organized coup). From 1994-1998, he served as a Republican state senator, ran for New Hampshire governor in 1998, chaired the NH GOP platform committee in 2000, was senior policy advisor and spokesman for former US Senator Gordon Humphrey in his 2002 run for governor.

“Today, Rubens is a member of the Granite State Angels, focusing on New England startups, consults for the Union of Concerned Scientists on clean energy politics, and chairs the Granite State Coalition Against Expanded Gambling. His new book, OverSuccess: Healing the American Obsession, will be published in April, 2008. More on it at www.OverSuccess.com. Jim Rubens supports Rudy Giuliani for President.


15 posted on 12/26/2007 10:14:15 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: Neu Pragmatist

“Romney needs to be defeated.”

It’s up to the voters. I believe Romney will make a great President.


16 posted on 12/26/2007 10:15:08 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Dobson endorsed Romney?


17 posted on 12/26/2007 10:16:35 PM PST by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: ansel12
This is why when someone starts looking at him as a candidate, they often finish by not only not choosing him, but by being repulsed by him.

That was exactly my experience. I liked him, and even talked him up to my parents...but then he claimed to be a "lifelong hunter." After that, I started digging, and the more I found the less I liked him. At this point I can't vote for him, which is a shame.

18 posted on 12/26/2007 10:19:24 PM PST by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: ansel12
This is why when someone starts looking at him as a candidate, they often finish by not only not choosing him, but by being repulsed by him.

That's no joke. Mitt used to be my 3rd choice, after FDT and DH. Over the past couple of months, he has gone from 3rd to "hold my nose if he manages to get the nomination" to "I'd rather not vote at all, than vote for him". The man is a snake in the grass, and the GOP (hopefully) can do better.

19 posted on 12/26/2007 10:20:11 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (I am free to worship God as I see fit, regardless of what the US military does.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
I tend not to listen to the opinion of "republicans" who want me to vote for Rudy Giuliani. That has been an established principle here at FR until recently, when it became chic to hang on every word of Giuliani supporters, and even liberal editorial boards pushing Joe Biden, so long as they say bad things about conservative Mitt Romney.

I'll just take ONE supposed "flip-flop" they mention -- thier contention that his 2002 and 2005 statements on abortion are a flip-flop.

In fact, those twho statements aren't even opposed, much less a change in position. His 2002 statement says that he believes that government should not dictate a woman's choice. In 2005 he says abortion is the wrong choice.

He of course was wrong in 2002 to suggest that a woman should have the right to kill their babies, because babies are human beings that DO deserve government's protection under our right to life. And in fact he has switched positions on this issue, as he now agrees that women should NOT have the choice to kill their children.

But the 2005 statement is not a "flip flop" from the 2002 position.

20 posted on 12/26/2007 10:23:16 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Wow,

I can just picture you at your keyboard twisting yourself into a pretzel to somehow make all of the Mittster’s flip-flops sound like principled choices on his part.

How do you do that?

I am sure that skill-set would be useful somewhere, however, I just can’t think of where right now.


21 posted on 12/26/2007 10:28:53 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I tend not to listen to the opinion of "republicans" who want me to vote for Rudy Giuliani. That has been an established principle here at FR until recently, when it became chic to hang on every word of Giuliani supporters, and even liberal editorial boards pushing Joe Biden, so long as they say bad things about conservative Mitt Romney.

One other thing....

While I agree with your opinion of Rudy, if someone tells the truth about Mitt and backs it up with examples, even though they support Rudy, it's still the truth!
22 posted on 12/26/2007 10:30:40 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Ol' Sparky

BUMP!


23 posted on 12/26/2007 10:31:50 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SoConPubbie

When people switch to the conservative position, of course it’s principled, because we are right.

I realise that a person can switch to the RIGHT position for the wrong reasons. But since any logical argument provided explaining the new position will be correct (since the conservative position is right, the argument for it is sound), I see little reason to run around trying to dream up unprincipled reasons for the same action.


24 posted on 12/26/2007 10:53:18 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SoConPubbie

I can’t believe what I am reading! Guiliani supporters are mad at Romney because he MIGHT be pro-abortion, for gay rights, and for illegal immigration. When there is absolutely no doubt that Guiliani is for all of those things.


25 posted on 12/26/2007 10:58:44 PM PST by calvo (Your strength isn't what you can do, but what you can endure.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
he fools a lot of people, even a lot of FReepers

Some of his supporters here are not fooled, they know very well that he's a liberal. That's why they support him.

26 posted on 12/26/2007 11:01:14 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Ol' Sparky

How ironic that these guys who say we can’t trust Romney - and they are right - tell us that we can trust Rudy; who’s even less trustworthy than Romney.


27 posted on 12/26/2007 11:07:54 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Saundra Duffy

synchophant


28 posted on 12/26/2007 11:09:27 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Saundra Duffy

Mitt Romney needs to be defeated - and HARD - in every primary.

Ditto for the other jerkwipe trying to use the Republican party for his own gain - the equally obscene liar, Mike Huckabee.

And while I am at it you can keep the cross-dressing ex-mayor of New York, too.


29 posted on 12/26/2007 11:21:04 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Follow. The. Money.


30 posted on 12/27/2007 12:00:28 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Saundra Duffy
"I believe Romney will make a great President."

Just like Ah-nold Schwarzeneggar has been such a great Governor, right ?

31 posted on 12/27/2007 12:01:56 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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"That has been an established principle here at FR until recently, when it became chic to hang on every word of Giuliani supporters"

Um, since when ? Most of the Rudybots were just as odious trolls as the Hucksterites and Mittwitts. They were largely dismissed by grown-ups.

32 posted on 12/27/2007 12:03:52 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Saundra Duffy

We will find out! :o)


33 posted on 12/27/2007 12:05:19 AM PST by Romneyfor President2008
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

“Turning the Republican Party into the 3rd Party in Massachusetts with no candidates fielded in many races and didn’t raise money for other candidates is another bad mark on Romney.”

What gibberish. Mitt won an election in the worst liberal state. He took no salary. Lead the fight for socially conservative issues and brought fiscal conservative principles to the state. All the clowns bolded are liberals.


34 posted on 12/27/2007 12:39:10 AM PST by ridge
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To: John Valentine

spoken like a true kos kid—defeat the real leaders.


35 posted on 12/27/2007 12:41:37 AM PST by ridge
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To: ridge
"What gibberish."

Yes, your claims of Joe Isuzu Romney was a Conservative anything. Set that bong down, dude, and step away from the Mitty payola. We're not buying.

36 posted on 12/27/2007 12:42:26 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Juvenile—you have the emotional intelligence of my 5 year old.

Pay attention to details. You would rather buy some carbon options to go with that global warming from Jim Rubens. This guy is conman invested in the McCain PACs.

http://www.carboncoalition.org/whoweare/CarbonCoalitionSpeakersBureau.php

Jim Rubens

Jim Rubens was a New Hampshire state senator from 1994-1998, GOP candidate for governor in 1998 and chair of the NH GOP Platform Committee in 2000. He is author of the state’s charter school, victim restitution and SB-2 voting laws. He is a consultant to Union of Concerned Scientists on national clean energy policy. Since 2001, he has served as Executive Committee chair and spokesman for the Granite State Coalition Against Expanded Gambling. Jim is a commercial real estate and angel investor in technology-related business startups and is a member of Granite State Angels, based at the Tuck School of Business in Hanover. He serves as board chairman of Accentus, LLC. Jim lives with his wife Susan and son Matthew in Etna. His favorite outdoor activity is strenuous day hiking in the NH Whites.


37 posted on 12/27/2007 12:49:04 AM PST by ridge
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To: ridge

You forgot your sarcasm alert...


38 posted on 12/27/2007 12:56:30 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine

I was busy laughing at what great endorsement this is.

“Jim Rubens dropped out of Dartmouth College to join a -—————> commune....and start a recycling center, then dropped back in to grow and sell about 10 businesses. He then got involved in politics, chairing the platform committee for the national Independence Party in 1992 (before being ousted in a Ross Perot organized coup). From 1994-1998, he served as a Republican state senator, ran for New Hampshire governor in 1998, chaired the NH GOP platform committee in 2000, was senior policy advisor and spokesman for former US Senator Gordon Humphrey in his 2002 run for governor.”


39 posted on 12/27/2007 1:00:07 AM PST by ridge
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To: ridge
"Juvenile—you have the emotional intelligence of my 5 year old."

Projections from a mindless Mittwitt liberal. I'm backing Fred, not the senile nut.

40 posted on 12/27/2007 1:05:03 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: ridge
spoken like a true kos kid—defeat the real leaders.

Or.. in case that wasn't meant to be sarcastic, as some other juvenile posts of yours might indicate, then you are saying:

- GET THIS, EVERYBODY -

That Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani are the "real leaders" of the Republican Party!!!

You are TRULY out to lunch.

And what's with this "kos kid" business? What is "kos"? Is this some obscure slur?

41 posted on 12/27/2007 1:07:43 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine

Kos is where the liberalloons hang out, no doubt Ridge’s first stop on the internet expressway every morn’... ;-)


42 posted on 12/27/2007 1:10:32 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: SeaHawkFan; All

What is this all about I still am trying to understand the heart of man.

Each of us who claim to follow Jesus Christ are told to be

Matt. 16: 24
24 ¶ Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Mark 8: 34
34 ¶ And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Luke 9: 23
23 ¶ And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

Did not Jesus tell us to forget self and strive to do good and be kind towards each other.

So how can that be when the children among themselves at times disagree, and instead of lettings their fellowman be when their different opinion and having an option to choose to agree to disagree.

But instead some choose words to hurled at another such as “sycophant” which is such a caustic reply to someone that has a contrary thought!

I have seen this time and time again take place.

What does that do for the person who says it, does it pay the rent, feed the baby, or being mean make one feel happy to make another feel rejected etc? (which does not come from a fellower of Jesus)

Why do professing Christians treat each other like this and when the Lord said forget self, which is impossible when one is acting mean towards another child of God, surely the Spirit of the Lord is not with them that show no love towards their fellowman!

When are the followers of Jesus going to follow Jesus?


43 posted on 12/27/2007 2:17:59 AM PST by restornu (Teach them correct principals and let them govern themselves ~ Joseph Smith)
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To: Ol' Sparky

romney’s former tax/immigration/health insurance policies don’t create a warm fuzzy feeling toward the future!!!!


44 posted on 12/27/2007 3:28:49 AM PST by nyyankeefan
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To: Saundra Duffy

Truth hurts.


45 posted on 12/27/2007 4:22:31 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: Ol' Sparky
It is impossible to determine what Mitt Romney believes. He cannot be trusted to stick with his promises or positions on the major issues. If Republicans allow Mitt Romney to win on Jan. 8, we will have abjectly failed our single most persuasive claim to the first primary: that we are scrupulous in uncovering the real candidate and that we cannot be fooled.

This is the conclusion to which I have come. I don't have the slightest idea what he believes or will do. The same with Huck. The more I hear about these two, the less I know.

I do know Fred Thompson and Duncan Hunter are the only two conservatives running for president and I do know that Hunter has no chance. Therefore, it's full speed ahead for Fred.

46 posted on 12/27/2007 4:28:16 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Ol' Sparky

Yet these guys are endorsing Giuliani, who’s even more liberal (if, perhaps, more honest about admitting it!).

Look, neither Romney nor Giuliani is a BAD guy. Just way too liberal for me to support in the PRIMARY. (Of course I’d support either in a general election, but let’s try for someone to their right first.)


47 posted on 12/27/2007 4:33:43 AM PST by pogo101
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To: Saundra Duffy
I believe Romney will make a great President.

Mitt is more liberal the your Austrian Gov. but that is OK.

48 posted on 12/27/2007 4:44:12 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: ansel12
This is why when someone starts looking at him as a candidate, they often finish by not only not choosing him, but by being repulsed by him.

Many conservatives in MA feel this way, myself included. The only difference is, we voted for him in 2002. As Pete Townsend says, won't get fooled again.

49 posted on 12/27/2007 5:20:20 AM PST by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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To: pogo101
Excellent point. No one has remarked on this ad, one of the latest from Mitt Romney, highlighting his search-and-rescue effort of a business partner's 14-year old daughter. He (Mitt) is a wonderful man but he's too liberal to be President.

Romney ad

50 posted on 12/27/2007 5:36:21 AM PST by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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