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To: highball

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There is no straw man in the valid point I made. Slowly suffocating to death or dehydrating to death is most certainly torture. That’s just the truth, ugly as it is. If you don’t give any serious consideration to the victim, maybe you can pretend it’s not torture.

It makes it easier to deny his right to life if you pretend his life has no value to anyone, including himself.

It takes an awful lot of pretending to “justify” killing a vulnerable person. It takes words like “euphoria” and elimination of words like “torture.” It takes pretending that the victim has as little regard for his own life as his killers do. It takes a pile of lies so high you need a ski lift to reach the top.


63 posted on 12/19/2007 11:44:33 AM PST by LilAngel (FReeping on a cell phone is like making Christmas dinner in an Easy Bake Oven)
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To: LilAngel
On FR, italics are used to indicate a previous poster’s words.

Sometimes, but not always. I don't want any confusion about what anyone did or did not say.

There is no straw man in the valid point I made. Slowly suffocating to death or dehydrating to death is most certainly torture. That’s just the truth, ugly as it is. If you don’t give any serious consideration to the victim, maybe you can pretend it’s not torture.

Do you equate that with removing someone from a respirator? That is, after all, precisely what I was talking about.

It takes an awful lot of pretending to “justify” killing a vulnerable person. It takes words like “euphoria” and elimination of words like “torture.” It takes pretending that the victim has as little regard for his own life as his killers do. It takes a pile of lies so high you need a ski lift to reach the top.

So what do you make of my clear, legal instructions to my wife concerning treatment should I be in that position? Do I not have the moral right to insist that she take me off a ventilator, etc? Even a feeding tube?

64 posted on 12/19/2007 11:57:32 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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