Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Penn Prof: “Speak English” Sign Like Jim Crow Era(Geno's Steaks, Philadelphia)
philly.com ^ | Dec. 14, 2007 | Michael Matza

Posted on 12/15/2007 6:28:56 AM PST by kellynla

A hearing was expected to continue into the evening on whether Geno's Steaks owner Joey Vento discriminated against non-English speaking patrons by posting an "Speak English" sign at his South Philadelphia shop. The Rev. James Allen, the chairperson of Commision on Human Relations, was the first witness to testify late this afternoon, followed by University of Pennsylvania professor Camille Charles.

Charles, a professor of sociology, said the number of foreign-born residents living in the South Philadelphia neighborhood near Geno's grew more than 200 percent between 1980 and 2000.

When shown historical signs from the Jim Crow era in the South that read "Whites Only," Charles said Vento's "Speak English" sign had the same impact on patrons.

More witnesses were expected to be called before the commision today and Rev. Allen, the chairman, vowed the hearing will not end until everyone has been heard.

Today's hearing is the result complaints in June 2006 about a sign Vento put in his steak-shop window saying, "This is America, when ordering, please 'speak English.' "

The notice soon generated national media attention, prompting a recent visit by Rudy Giuliani.

Before the testimony began today Vento's attorneys argued about the fairness of the hearing itself.

The attorneys for Vento charged that the proceedings were unfair for two reasons and asked that the case be thrown out. First, the attorneys said, the allegations were brought by the Rev. James S. Allen Sr., chairperson of Commission on Human Relations, the city agency adjudicating the case.

Second, the defense first learned of several commission witnesses, set to testify today, less than an hour before the hearing began at about 1:30 p.m. at the Quaker meeting house near Third and Arch Streets.

Defense attorneys, however, were required to submit their pretrial briefs and witness lists well in advance.

After Vento's attorneys asked for the case to be dismissed "without prejudice," the panel of commissioners recessed to consider their next step and then returned to continue the hearing.

More than 100 people attended, watching the proceedings in the unadorned 1804 structure, with its wooden floors and wooden pews.

Statements by either side were met with muttering or grumbling by the spectators.

Outside, one man held a "Hail Geno" sign bearing an American flag. A group wore black T-shirts with a message that Pennsylvania loves immigrants, the word loves symbolized by a heart.

Making most of the arguments for Vento's team was Shannon Goessling of the Southeastern Legal Foundation, based in Atlanta.

Leading the prosecution was commission counsel Paul M. Hummer, a partner in the law firm Saul Ewing.

The Philadelphia Commission on Human Relations decided to charge that Vento discriminated against non-English speakers.

The commission alleges that Vento's sign violates the section of the city's Fair Practices Ordinance that prohibits the owner of a public accommodation from putting up a sign aimed at "any specific group" to make its members feel discriminated against or unwelcome.

Below the Geno's sign was another that stated, "Management reserves the right to refuse service."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: academia; aliens; business; cheesesteaks; english; genos; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; philly
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-90 next last


Joey Vento, owner of Geno's Steaks, greets reporters and fans outside the eatery around noon, shortly before heading to the hearing.
1 posted on 12/15/2007 6:28:57 AM PST by kellynla
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

Backers flock to Geno’s before ‘speak English’ hearing
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20071214_Genos_owner_has_speak_Engish_hearing_today.html


2 posted on 12/15/2007 6:30:00 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


3 posted on 12/15/2007 6:30:48 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

VIDEO
“Speak English” at Geno’s
Link:
http://www.philly.com/philly/multimedia/12511101.html


4 posted on 12/15/2007 6:32:00 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

I hope some Hispanic kid sues Penn and this prof for making him write his papers in English.


5 posted on 12/15/2007 6:33:48 AM PST by Tribune7 (Dems want to rob from the poor to give to the rich)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla
A hearing was expected to continue into the evening on whether Geno's Steaks owner Joey Vento discriminated against non-English speaking patrons by posting an "Speak English" sign at his South Philadelphia shop.

Nope, he's not discriminating, he expects everyone to order in English.

What do some people expect, that he has a translator for every dialect in the world just in case someone from somewhere should show up?

Really, if you don't want to speak English, go live where they speak the language you like. Nobody's stopping anyone from leaving.

6 posted on 12/15/2007 6:36:37 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla
When shown historical signs from the Jim Crow era in the South that read "Whites Only," Charles said Vento's "Speak English" sign had the same impact on patrons.

One is an immutable characteristic. The other is a changeable behavior. No comparison.

7 posted on 12/15/2007 6:37:15 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla
Camille Charles is a mindless twit. Geno's isn't refusing to serve anyone or sending them to the back of the bus. He's only asking that they order in the language of their host country.

Any black people who lived through the Jim Crow era would be perfectly within their rights to tar, feather and ride Charles out of town on a rail for such a stupid comparison diminishing what they endured.

8 posted on 12/15/2007 6:38:02 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla
The commission alleges that Vento's sign violates the section of the city's Fair Practices Ordinance that prohibits the owner of a public accommodation from putting up a sign aimed at "any specific group" to make its members feel discriminated against or unwelcome.

I believe this is the same ordnance being used by Philadelphia to drive the National Boy Scout Headquarters from the city.

9 posted on 12/15/2007 6:38:25 AM PST by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tribune7

Great point!


10 posted on 12/15/2007 6:39:41 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (Although most dead people vote democrat, aborted babies, if given the choice, would vote Republican.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

The no refunds sign says it all I think.
The guy is probably sick and tired of making the wrong subs for these non-English speakers and then having to throw them out and having these customers demanding their money back.


11 posted on 12/15/2007 6:41:37 AM PST by mowowie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Captain Rhino

Yep. We can all rest easier knowing that the city is protecting us from those treacherous Boy Scouts and evil signage.


12 posted on 12/15/2007 6:41:39 AM PST by new cruelty
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: kellynla
First, the attorneys said, the allegations were brought by the Rev. James S. Allen Sr., chairperson of Commission on Human Relations, the city agency adjudicating the case.

How very Stalinist of them...

13 posted on 12/15/2007 6:42:53 AM PST by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

How do you say Philly cheesesteak in Spanish?


14 posted on 12/15/2007 6:43:07 AM PST by purpleraine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Funny that the esteemed Philly Commission on Human Relations isn’t tackling issues such as the tragically and insanely high murder rate in Philadelphia, most of which is black-on-black crime. I’d say the way black males are being killed on almost a daily basis there is a “human relations” issue. And the numbers of innocent bystanders and school children being gunned down in drug shootings...in my book that’s also a “human” issue. But I guess trying to strip Joey Vento’s freedom of speech is more important.

This mock and sham-of-a-sham trial is part of the reason I don’t see myself ever returning to Philly.


15 posted on 12/15/2007 6:44:03 AM PST by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Donate to the cause.

http://www.genosteaks.com/home1.html


16 posted on 12/15/2007 6:44:14 AM PST by Vision (" 'Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,' says the Lord Almighty." Zechariah 4:6)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The Electrician

I guessing that spanish speaking customers go there and order in English. The only one filing the complaint is the idiot commission. They have to justify their position.


17 posted on 12/15/2007 6:45:03 AM PST by purpleraine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: purpleraine

yo quiero taco bell! : P


18 posted on 12/15/2007 6:48:13 AM PST by new cruelty
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: kellynla
On the local news they had some anti-Geno saying the sign made him feel "uncomfortable".

What a friggin' maroon, do we now have a right to not feel uncomfortable? If we do, I have a list the size of a Road Atlas of crap that makes me uncomfortable and that is just for TV advertisements.

19 posted on 12/15/2007 6:48:55 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: new cruelty

what is a chalupa anyway?


20 posted on 12/15/2007 6:49:25 AM PST by purpleraine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-90 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson