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Question Mormonism and You're a Bigot?
Townhall ^ | 12/13/07 | Paul Edwards

Posted on 12/13/2007 5:48:56 PM PST by pissant

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To: annelizly

I had wondered about that for years. I read an article which said only approved people could get into that church. I thought that was the oddest thing I had ever read.


61 posted on 12/13/2007 6:35:47 PM PST by MamaB
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To: pissant

Values.


62 posted on 12/13/2007 6:36:09 PM PST by onedoug
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To: JCEccles

I’m not an evangelical nor a baptist. Though I’ve accompanied friends to their churches a time or two. No experience like that to speak of. My Church also classifies the mormonism as a cult, but in all my years I’ve only heard one priest briefly mention them in a sermon.

Just as mormon’s are evangelistic, so are Roman Catholics. I’ve had some great discussions with my mormon friends.


63 posted on 12/13/2007 6:37:30 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Sherman Logan

Well, anyone can come into any part of my church complex—SBC. I find it very odd that someone would want to keep it secret.


64 posted on 12/13/2007 6:38:08 PM PST by MamaB
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To: JCEccles
Sure He would, but that's just Him (under certain conditions, and only in accordance with what He said ~ and it's inappropriate to put words He didn't say in His mouth you know) ~ your examples sound a little too trite, and entirely too consistent with preconceived notions about Evangelicals.

A Baptist preacherman with an angry face? Hmmm ~ who spent the whole time preaching about cults?

Did you catch the Bible reading ~ and what were the hymns?

Not that I don't believe you, but if you have sufficiently developed preconceived notions the slightest bit of evidence will frequently fulfill your expections 100%.

Try a Methodist church some time. Get back to me on the preacherman's angry face ~ we'll all have a good laugh ~ they practice the sonorous voice and the vapid message to a degree almost unimagineable. But they're every bit the Evangelicals the Baptist preachermen are. Fur Shur.

65 posted on 12/13/2007 6:39:22 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: pissant

Interesting that he says Pat Buchanan should “know better”. The writer is obviously not informed about Buchanan’s sister Bay who is Mormon. It undoubtedly has effected Buchanan’s attitude toward Mormonism more than any conversation with Romney or reruns of “Big Love”.


66 posted on 12/13/2007 6:41:11 PM PST by Burkean
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To: Revolting cat!
Not that the Germans are not to be trusted by the last religion they banned was Judaism, and they then proceeded to try killing all of them.
67 posted on 12/13/2007 6:42:10 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: pissant

Yep, back in the day:

When Mormonism accepted polygamy. Then God changed his mind.

When Mormonism didn’t accept blacks into the higher tiers of their religious hierarchy. Then God changed his mind.

;-)


68 posted on 12/13/2007 6:42:28 PM PST by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: RobbyS

Interesting. I know several Catholics who left their church of folk mass and social gospel to the Lutheran church which the LCMS has a high and orthodox service with music of their people such as Bach, and other 1600 - 180oth cen. music and litergy.


69 posted on 12/13/2007 6:42:34 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Hey, you and I agree for a change. I don’t want to spend much time discussing mormonism outside of the religion forum. But I gotta tell you, conservatives trying to shoehorn more political correctness into public discourse is disturbing to me. Religion is a set of beliefs, not to be confused with the color of ones skin or the origins of your birth.


70 posted on 12/13/2007 6:44:05 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: doc1019


Yep, back in the day:

When Mormonism accepted polygamy. Then God changed his mind.

When Mormonism didn’t accept blacks into the higher tiers of their religious hierarchy. Then God changed his mind.”

Excellent point.


71 posted on 12/13/2007 6:44:35 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: pissant
Ah, you can question Mormonism all you want. It is illegitimate to use that as a test for political office in the US. That is bigotry.

I've read all these attacks on Mormonism and on Romney, but I've never read what exactly Romney is supposed to do as President that is wrong or evil due to his Mormonism. What did he do as Governor of Massachusetts that was full of Mormonism? What has he done as a businessman that was full of Mormonism? And what was wrong with whatever he did?

One of my distant relatives, William Howard Taft, was attacked and deemed unfit for the Presidency, because he did not believe in the Trinitarian Jesus, he was a Unitarian. Americans didn't buy that a hundred years ago and Romney shouldn't be rejected, because he's a Mormon.

That would be wrong. That would be against the American Tradition.

72 posted on 12/13/2007 6:45:19 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: Revolting cat!

The way I heard it, and I have no idea if it is true or not, polygamy as practiced by the early Mormons arose out of necessity when they all left Missouri to head west.

The church membership at the time was about three to one female and polygamy was given a temporary standing so that all the extra women could find husbands (even if they had to share them). It was never intended to be a permanent fixture.

But all this is silly, IMO. As a poster above said, “one man’s religion is another man’s belly laugh.”

I believe in God, I try to live a good life, I respect people who have faith, but when anyone says that their particular church has the “One True Faith, You Betcha!” I say to myself... riiiighhht.... and change the subject.


73 posted on 12/13/2007 6:45:32 PM PST by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS.)
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To: RedStateRocker
“One man’s theology is another man’s belly laugh” Robert Heinlein

This quote pretty much sums up the whole JOKE of this Christian-Mormon religious discussion. Thanks for the golden quote.

74 posted on 12/13/2007 6:45:39 PM PST by Swordfished
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To: doc1019
There is this doctrine of continuing creation and revelation ~ most established churches reject it. The Mormons don't.

I think they have a word for it but don't recall it at the moment.

Pure Land Buddhism in Japan has revived the ancient tradition of seeking to recover new truths and that'd been a locked down tight scripturally controlled religious tradition for nearly two and a half millenia, so don't ever say change is not possible.

75 posted on 12/13/2007 6:46:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: pissant
Besides O'Donnell being an idiot, I don't care a rat's a$$ what religion you are. Just don't try and kill me. It tends to pi$$ me off.

5.56mm

76 posted on 12/13/2007 6:46:38 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: pissant

The claim that it is somehow “bigoted” to point out that 1)Mormonism/Evangelical Baptism/Whatever teaches X (assuming that X is in fact part of the religion’s teachings) and that 2)Candidate Y declares himself to be of that sect is absurd. It’s the same sort of “argument” used by CAIR types to attack any criticism of Islamic Fundamentalism as “hate speech”.


77 posted on 12/13/2007 6:46:40 PM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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To: RobbyS

“no presidential candidate should raise theological issues unless they have a direct bearing on the political issues at hand”.

Agreed.


78 posted on 12/13/2007 6:48:55 PM PST by MaggieM (Tanti galli a cantar non fa mai giorno ( Too many chiefs, not enough warriors))
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To: Jabba the Nutt

It is not illegitimate to use that as a test for political office....as an individual. It is illegitimate for the government to use that as a test. I would vote for Mitt if he somehow wins the primary. But if others view Mormonism as I view Jehovah’s Witnesses and would not pull the lever for Romeny because of it, more power to them.

And if folks do the same for Catholic or protestant politicians, so be it.


79 posted on 12/13/2007 6:49:14 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: SoCalPol
Interesting, because I know enough about Catholic doctrine that I can distinguish between that the local pastor says, whether his name be Lutter or McNamara, and what the Magisterium. says. I sure would not go to the local Episcopal Church just for the music, since the theology of the presiding bishop, is more bizarre than anything Joseph Smith cooked up.
80 posted on 12/13/2007 6:49:42 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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