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NumbersUSA’s Roy Beck Assesses Republican Presidential Candidates On Immigration Issues
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Posted on 12/13/2007 7:45:07 AM PST by Man50D

NumbersUSA's Roy Beck has revised his ratings on 15 Presidential candidates of both Parties. Although every candidate wants voters to think he/she would end future illegal immigration, Roy finds that only six are making promises that rate as "good" or "excellent" in this category. Likewise, only four of these 15 are making promises that rate them as “good” or “excellent” on reducing legal immigration, which is at its highest level in history.

In the Republican race, former Senator Fred Thompson (Tenn.) and former Governors Mitt Romney (Mass.) and Mike Huckabee (Ark.) are outdoing each other to adopt policies to try to look as good as Representatives Tom Tancredo (Colo.), Duncan Hunter (Calif.) and Ron Paul (Tex.). Take a Look


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; homosexualagenda; illegalimmigration; immigration; libertarians; numbersusa; peterthiel; roybeck

1 posted on 12/13/2007 7:45:08 AM PST by Man50D
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To: Man50D

I believe NumbersUSA is a Clinton front group. Big backers of Bill and Hill. They sell your phone numbers to campaigns. Lowlife telemarketers who have been accused of scamming seniors.


2 posted on 12/13/2007 7:48:33 AM PST by Ron in Acreage (Thinking of new tagline)
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To: Man50D
to try to look as good as Representatives.... and Ron Paul (Tex.).

Apparently, he likes to ignore Paul's constantly voting against putting the military on the border or his comments on immigration that (the US)should welcome everyone who wants to come here and work.

I also notice that NumbersUSA still hasn't corrected the errors for Thompson regarding misrepresenting several bills (claiming he voted for when he voted against- they ignore the final vote and only look at procedural votes to move from committee to committee)

3 posted on 12/13/2007 7:48:35 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Man50D

Thompson comes out very well. Romney? not so good.

Pretty hard to believe a new crusader when you have to walk around his own illegals to get into his mansion.


4 posted on 12/13/2007 7:49:37 AM PST by ansel12 (“Sanctuary Mansion? The savings help me to become leader of the anti-illegal worker war. Romney 08)
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To: Ron in Acreage
The original NumbersUSA founder was a big Gore guy environmentalist who advocated 0 immigration along with more abortions in order to get the US to negative population growth to ‘save the world’.. I’ll see if I can find that article by him, last time I checked, it was still on their site.
5 posted on 12/13/2007 7:49:45 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Man50D
Past performance is a good indicator of future performance.

NumbersUSA seems to have become somewhat generous with Huckabee recently by upgrading his rating -- based on what????? Future promises????

Assessment of Past Immigration Actions in Political Office

Based on Congressional,
Gubernatorial
and Mayoral actions

Giuliani
bad

Huckabee
bad

McCain
bad

Thompson
fair

Romney
good

Paul
good

Tancredo
excellent

Hunter
excellent


6 posted on 12/13/2007 8:01:19 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: mnehrling

NumbersUSA was at the front of the congressional battle lines to stop the last congressional attempt to give amnesty to illegal aliens.


7 posted on 12/13/2007 8:01:41 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: mnehrling

Gore had an A- rating, which is even higher than most of the Pubbie wannabes.

http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=TN&VIPID=744&retired=1


8 posted on 12/13/2007 8:04:17 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: ckilmer

I disagree, there were a lot of groups on the front line, NumbersUSA is primarly just a website. I wouldn’t give them that much credit.


9 posted on 12/13/2007 8:09:43 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Ron in Acreage
believe NumbersUSA is a Clinton front group. Big backers of Bill and Hill. They sell your phone numbers to campaigns. Lowlife telemarketers who have been accused of scamming seniors.

Basis for this?

10 posted on 12/13/2007 8:13:28 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Man50D
There whole thing is bogus BS, all you need to do is read the Mike Wallace interview with the dope from hope to know the man is full force open borders.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316253,00.html

11 posted on 12/13/2007 8:13:32 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Man50D

Democrat candidates:

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12 posted on 12/13/2007 8:18:17 AM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: mnehrling
It may not affect the soundness of particular immigration views, but the NUMBERSUSA site shows that they have a very strong enviro-wacko component. Their "advisors" list from their site

http://www.numbersusa.com/about/advisors.html

includes Sen. Gaylord Nelson and AG Doug LaFollette, liberal Wisconsin Dems, Lindsay Grant, one of the key backers of the infamous Carter "Global 2000 Report", David Pimentel, a Cornell Prof who has authored many "we're doomed" studies. In short, I think this is more "anti-immigration" in service of enviro-ism, than "let's be a strong and confident nation that takes control of our own borders and destiny," which I think is the right line.

13 posted on 12/13/2007 8:29:29 AM PST by BohDaThone
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To: mnehrling

Maybe so but I saw their representatives on Lou Dobbs show frequently before the senate ruled on amnesty.


14 posted on 12/13/2007 9:33:11 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Man50D

Outdoing each other trying to look as good as Hunter...

bmflr

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According to Intrade, the winner of yesterday’s GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts


15 posted on 12/13/2007 1:59:21 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: TomGuy
if they gave gore an A rating then i think this organization needs some looking into.
16 posted on 12/13/2007 9:54:54 PM PST by Coleus (Happy Chanukah)
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To: Ron in Acreage

Hmmm. They’ve had my number for almost two years now and the only campaign calls I’ve gotten have been GOP.


17 posted on 12/14/2007 1:24:46 AM PST by ruination
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To: ruination; Ron in Acreage
They’ve had my number for almost two years now and the only campaign calls I’ve gotten have been GOP.

Same here.
18 posted on 12/14/2007 9:29:17 PM PST by CottonBall
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