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Colorado (Church) Gunman Posted Anti-Christian Manifesto: report
Google NEws ^ | 12-12-07 | Google News/AFP

Posted on 12/12/2007 10:18:51 AM PST by tcrlaf

DENVER, Colorado (AFP) — The gunman responsible for shootings at two religious centers in Colorado warned of his plans for the rampage in anti-Christian rants posted on the Internet, it was reported Tuesday.

Matthew Murray, who shot dead four people in separate attacks on a missionary training center and mega-church on Sunday, published more than a dozen writings online prior to his shooting spree, KUSA TV reported in Denver.

"You Christians brought this on yourselves," Murray reportedly wrote on a Web site for people who have left Pentecostal and fundamentalist religious organizations, shortly before the second of his two attacks.

"I'm coming for EVERYONE soon and I WILL be armed to the @#%$ teeth and I WILL shoot to kill. ... God, I can't wait till I can kill you people. Feel no remorse, no sense of shame, I don't care if I live or die in the shoot-out.

"All I want to do is kill and injure as many of you ... as I can especially Christians who are to blame for most of the problems in the world."

KUSA reported that the wording of Murray's rant mirrored language used by one of the Columbine High School gunmen, Eric Harris, before the 1999 massacre that left 12 students and a teacher dead.

Meanwhile it emerged Tuesday that Murray had killed himself following the shootings, rather than being shot dead by a security guard at the New Life evangelical church as had been previously thought.

A Colorado Springs police spokesman said the investigation by El Paso County Coroner's Office showed that Murray died from a "self-inflicted gunshot wound" following the rampage.

Murray was armed with two handguns, an assault rifle, around 1,000 rounds of ammunition and several smoke grenades as he began his assault on the New Life church, which was packed with around 7,000 worshippers.

In other postings made on the day of the shootings, Murray says goodbye to people he has corresponded with in recent months.

"You guys were awesome. It's time for me to head out and teach these (expletive) a lesson," he wrote.

"Thanks for listening and all ... even though even many of you ex-Pentecostals don't understand ...... (sic) See you all on the other side, we're leaving this nightmare behind to a better place."

The website address was not published by KUSA TV, which reported that Murray's writings were removed on Monday.

It emerged on Monday that Murray had been expelled five years ago from a program run by the Youth With a Mission training center in the Denver suburb of Arvada, the scene of his first attack where two workers were shot dead.

Police said on Monday forensic evidence found at the two shooting scenes showed both attacks were carried out by Murray acting alone.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: antichristian; church; deaththreat; democrat; mediablackout; murderous; murray; newlifechurch; psycho; religiousintolerance; shooting; ywam
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I think we have figured out why this story didn't last much more than 1/2 news cycles....
1 posted on 12/12/2007 10:18:53 AM PST by tcrlaf
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“You Christians brought this on yourselves...”

Typical lib reaction. Always the victim’s fault.


2 posted on 12/12/2007 10:20:39 AM PST by Brilliant
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I think we now know why this story has disappeared from the press...

If this kid had shot up a bathhouse, we’d be getting 24/7 live coverage...


3 posted on 12/12/2007 10:22:51 AM PST by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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“I think we have figured out why this story didn’t last much more than 1/2 news cycles....”

Yeah, because the nut’s rhetoric mirrors the Elitist establishment. Which includes the MSM.


4 posted on 12/12/2007 10:23:28 AM PST by demshateGod (Duncan Hunter for President)
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I believe this was also Osama bin Laden’s rationale for the 9/11 attacks and the justification of every homicide bomber in the Middle East.


5 posted on 12/12/2007 10:25:21 AM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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This story seems to ONLY be in the press OUTSIDE of the United States, Namely AFP, and Australia.

I find it VERY TELLING that U.S. Media is ignoring this part. Now, if he had shot up a bathhouse, on the other hand...


6 posted on 12/12/2007 10:26:31 AM PST by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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But I was told that he WAS a Christian.


7 posted on 12/12/2007 10:28:36 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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I really don’t understand the reaction of Christians following this attack on their faith. What good do these global riots and calls for the death of nonbelievers do anyway? Christian clergy should be ashamed at the way they have called for retribution for this insult to their faith. And as if we really need these advocacy groups claiming victimhood for all Christians. The way these people are acting you would think that somebody drew a cartoon or something.
8 posted on 12/12/2007 10:30:26 AM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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This story seems to ONLY be in the press OUTSIDE of the United States, Namely AFP, and Australia.

The text of his postings have been all over press websites in the US for over a day.

9 posted on 12/12/2007 10:32:33 AM PST by Strategerist
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Sounds like another atheist psychotic.


10 posted on 12/12/2007 10:34:53 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Last I heard the angle was that he ended the rampage he was on by committing suicide, the security guard was just a meanie who shot him a bunch of times.


11 posted on 12/12/2007 10:35:07 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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"See you all on the other side, we're leaving this nightmare behind to a better place."

I'm sure you are.

(not)

12 posted on 12/12/2007 10:35:16 AM PST by shekkian
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This site was a anti christian site.I am wondering if there are posts from people that basically egged this guy on to kill.

WHICH is a lesson for the FR community to be careful what you post, because someone just can be pushed over the edge and when the media goes into the archives you can bet they will use it.


13 posted on 12/12/2007 10:36:41 AM PST by Walkingfeather (u)
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God, I can't wait till I can kill you people. Feel no remorse, no sense of shame, I don't care if I live or die in the shoot-out.

"All I want to do is kill and injure as many of you ... as I can especially Christians who are to blame for most of the problems in the world."

I never have understood why atheists use God's/Jesus' name as a matter of exclamation when they don't believe.

14 posted on 12/12/2007 10:36:41 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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So the police knew about this but sat on the news for days while waiting to “determine” if there was any connection between the multiple shootings.

Hmmm.

How many pieces to the puzzle do they need?


15 posted on 12/12/2007 10:37:51 AM PST by weegee (If Bill Clinton can sit in on Hillary's Cabinet Meetings then GWBush should ask to get to sit in too)
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So the police knew about this but sat on the news for days

The postings were between the first and second shootings. There was no sitting on anything for "days."

16 posted on 12/12/2007 10:40:08 AM PST by Strategerist
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There’s an AP story on it in my paper today. I’m in the U.S.


17 posted on 12/12/2007 10:46:48 AM PST by gracesdad
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This murderer should have been writing for the San Francisco Chronicle. He could replace Mark Morford as the local anti-Christian bigot.


18 posted on 12/12/2007 10:47:15 AM PST by Neoliberalnot
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INDEED.


19 posted on 12/12/2007 10:47:16 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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I never have understood why atheists use God’s/Jesus’ name as a matter of exclamation when they don’t believe.
= = =

INDEED.

No “Oh Buddha!” “Oh Shiva!” “Oh Muhammed!” “Oh Allah!”

Because their father satan knows WHO HAS THE !REAL! POWER!


20 posted on 12/12/2007 10:50:35 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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