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New Book Explodes Swift Boat Myths
NewsMax.com ^ | December 6, 2007 | Editors

Posted on 12/07/2007 8:39:54 AM PST by Interesting Times

FALLS CHURCH, Va. -- Last week former President Bill Clinton, John Kerry and various members of the media once again used "Swift boating" as a shorthand reference for misrepresenting a candidate's record. In "To Set the Record Straight: How Swift Boat Veterans, POWs and the New Media Defeated John Kerry," authors Scott Swett and Tim Ziegler counter that assertion in a heavily researched 400 page work that provides the first historical assessment of the 2004 presidential campaign.

"To Set the Record Straight" is the definitive account of the ad hoc political movement that dominated the 2004 presidential campaign. Based on hundreds of in-depth interviews with key participants and two years of meticulous research, the book tells the inside story of how a group of Vietnam vets and their supporters delivered the explosive truth about John Kerry's military service and pro-Hanoi activism to the American public, despite relentless efforts by old media gatekeepers to silence and discredit them.

Swett said, "John Kerry lost all the key debates in 2004 to the anti-Kerry veterans. Since then, he has tried to paper over his failure with sloganeering and empty promises of new evidence." He added, "The 2004 campaign was a watershed in American political history, marking the first time that online forums and blogs were able to have a real impact on the national conversation. These new media outlets made it impossible for the liberal press to hide or dismiss what the veterans had to say."

The foreword for the book was written by John E. O'Neill, the lead spokesman for the Swift Vets and POWs for Truth in 2004. One chapter that underscores the impact of the new media on the campaign has been made available online at "ToSetTheRecordStraight.com". "Rather's Ruin and the Rise of the Pajamahadeen" tells how ordinary citizens with computers exposed the phony documents "60 Minutes" used to attack George Bush's National Guard service, effectively ending Dan Rather's career at CBS News.

"To Set the Record Straight" also contains:

o Conclusive evidence that the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth acted independently, and were not a creation of the Bush campaign as their opponents repeatedly claimed.

o Detailed analysis of the efforts by the old media to blunt the impact of the anti-Kerry veterans by distorting and misrepresenting their charges

o Previously unpublished information on the "war crimes" propaganda effort that Kerry led during the Vietnam War, including material showing how the antiwar movement worked with the North Vietnamese and the Viet Cong.

o New eyewitness perspectives on Kerry's "No Man Left Behind" engagement from a Forward Air Control pilot and the mission's Special Forces commander.

o The powerful story of a former member of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War who testified that Kerry personally pressured him to tell lies about military atrocities and war crimes at the group's 1971 "Winter Soldier" conference.



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KEYWORDS: bookreview; johnkerry; newsmax; settherecordstraight; swiftboatveterans; swiftboatvets; unfit
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Still setting the record straight...
1 posted on 12/07/2007 8:39:58 AM PST by Interesting Times
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To: Howlin; eddie willers; cajungirl; wirestripper; Southflanknorthpawsis; Peach; prairiebreeze; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 12/07/2007 8:40:48 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times

Form 180?


3 posted on 12/07/2007 8:41:07 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: Interesting Times

The Swift Boaters DID set the record straight...this is just cashing in...


4 posted on 12/07/2007 8:41:49 AM PST by Hildy (Faith is the bird that sings when the dawn is still dark.)
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To: Interesting Times
These new media outlets made it impossible for the liberal press to hide or dismiss what the veterans had to say.

They couldn't hide it, but they did their darn best to try to dismiss it. Not that they are biased or anything....

5 posted on 12/07/2007 8:43:27 AM PST by Always Right
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Form 180?

Well he partially did, but only to one select member and good friend who would cover for him. Kerry's promise that everyone would soon see his records has yet to be met.

6 posted on 12/07/2007 8:45:22 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Interesting Times

Whenever someone uses the term “swiftboating”, the true translation is “new media exposure of information censored by the old media”


7 posted on 12/07/2007 8:45:37 AM PST by z3n
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To: Interesting Times

I’m extremely impressed with your effort.


8 posted on 12/07/2007 8:48:39 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: Interesting Times

The MSM still believe, as do the dims, that if you tell a lie often enough, it will become the truth. The swiftboaters have proven this a wrong assumption. God bless them everyone of them.


9 posted on 12/07/2007 8:49:24 AM PST by Big Mack (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain TO EAT VEGETABLES!)
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To: Hildy
The Swift Boaters DID set the record straight...this is just cashing in...

John O'Neill doesn't think so, and I respect his opinion a great deal more than yours.

10 posted on 12/07/2007 8:49:59 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times

FRankly, I can’t wait for the day when Karl Rove finally has the common decency to admit that it was the Swift Boat veterans who were the architects of Kerry’s defeat, and not the little round man himself.


11 posted on 12/07/2007 8:50:19 AM PST by lapster
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To: bert
I’m extremely impressed with your effort.

Thanks. If the leftist "swiftboating" meme isn't challenged, they'll gradually work it into the language, a la "McCarthyism."

12 posted on 12/07/2007 8:51:16 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times

It’s kind of a moot point 3 years after the fact.


13 posted on 12/07/2007 8:51:39 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Interesting Times

Makes me proud to have been a part of “setting the record straight”......I’ve yet to see kerry attempt to collect the million dollars from Boone Pickens....


14 posted on 12/07/2007 8:53:11 AM PST by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: Interesting Times

Just more evidence that Kerry heads the treason branch of the DNC. This branch seems to dominate the DNC. Kerry stands out as the most despicable among despicable for his treasoness activities.


15 posted on 12/07/2007 8:53:12 AM PST by businessprofessor
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To: mylife
It’s kind of a moot point 3 years after the fact.

Not really. Nobody has ever told the complete inside story of what happened in 2004, and it needs to be known.

16 posted on 12/07/2007 8:54:22 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: mylife
It’s kind of a moot point 3 years after the fact.

My friend it is never a moot point when honorable Veterans honor is challanged....there is no time line...

17 posted on 12/07/2007 8:55:30 AM PST by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: Interesting Times

Still fighting the Vietnam War.


18 posted on 12/07/2007 8:55:53 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Interesting Times; Cannoneer No. 4
"The 2004 campaign was a watershed in American political history, marking the first time that online forums and blogs were able to have a real impact on the national conversation. These new media outlets made it impossible for the liberal press to hide or dismiss what the veterans had to say."

New media is the Enemedia's biggest nightmare.

Infowar ping?

19 posted on 12/07/2007 8:56:03 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: Always Right
They couldn't hide it, but they did their darn best to try to dismiss it. Not that they are biased or anything...

The 2004 anti-Kerry effort should be Exhibit A in how to do an effective end-run around the old media.

20 posted on 12/07/2007 8:57:33 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times

The WND headline is an unfortuant choice of word.

“Review of Swift Boat Activism Reinforces Findings” would be more descriptive of their article.


21 posted on 12/07/2007 8:57:51 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Interesting Times

Wasn’t there something about Kerry and a million bucks to disprove the SB’s???? Has he paid up yet? And what about that 180 thing ...???


22 posted on 12/07/2007 8:58:57 AM PST by SkyDancer ("There is no distinctly Native American criminal class...save Congress - Mark Twain")
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To: RVN Airplane Driver
Makes me proud to have been a part of “setting the record straight”...

Now we need to set the record straight about 2004.

...I’ve yet to see kerry attempt to collect the million dollars from Boone Pickens....

Kerry got real quiet after Pickens asked for his missing records and his Vietnam journal, didn't he?

23 posted on 12/07/2007 8:59:24 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times; smoothsailing; Just A Nobody; freema; RedRover

Great article ping!


24 posted on 12/07/2007 9:00:11 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

John O’Neill to Free Republic — Thanks for everything...
email | November 15, 2004 | John O’Neill

Posted on 11/15/2004 3:02:56 PM EST by Interesting Times

To The Citizens Of Free Republic:

We will never ever forget your support and help. Your threads not only encouraged us but kept the truth alive in a period when Big Media sought to suppress the story. Your e-mails and phone calls to Big Media at least shamed them. The thousands of contributions we got from you helped us to organize our website, produce our earliest ads, and keep the light flickering in the darkest of times. The English at Agincourt would have executed Kerry for meeting with the enemy and betraying them. In contrast, we found a true band of brothers who stood with us and supported us. Thank you. We will never forget it.

John O’Neill
November 15, 2004


25 posted on 12/07/2007 9:01:11 AM PST by angkor ("There! half man, half bear, and half pig! Do you see it?!." Al Gore, South Park 11.12)
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To: Interesting Times
My copy just arrived.
26 posted on 12/07/2007 9:01:13 AM PST by stayathomemom
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To: Interesting Times
I know several members of SBVT - my late Dad was a Swiftie in II Corps '67-68. That all 230-some members were honorable men doing the honorable thing in opposing Kerry cannot be overstated.

Good for them. I'll buy the book.
27 posted on 12/07/2007 9:01:39 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since 1991.)
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To: Interesting Times

I guess I should have read the whole article.
I thought the book was about defending Kerry 3 years after the fact.


28 posted on 12/07/2007 9:02:07 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Interesting Times

I’m just glad democrats are stupid enough to keep reminding voters about the Swift Boaters and John Kerry’s unability to respond to what they said.


29 posted on 12/07/2007 9:02:32 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: Interesting Times

see #25


30 posted on 12/07/2007 9:03:01 AM PST by angkor ("There! half man, half bear, and half pig! Do you see it?!." Al Gore, South Park 11.12)
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To: Interesting Times
This book will explain why no one has stepped forward to accept the challenge made by oilman T. Boone Pickens on November 6 when he offered $1 million to anyone that could disprove even one charge made against Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
31 posted on 12/07/2007 9:03:32 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: Interesting Times

bttt


32 posted on 12/07/2007 9:04:54 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Algore - there's not a more priggish, sanctimonious moral scold of a church lady anywhere.)
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To: angkor

Thanks for that post. I never saw that before. Very cool.


33 posted on 12/07/2007 9:04:56 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Interesting Times

BTTT


34 posted on 12/07/2007 9:05:36 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Interesting Times

Is there a statute of limitations on treason?

Kerry’s coziness with North Vietnam sure seems like treason to me.


35 posted on 12/07/2007 9:06:30 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Bright, shiny objects need not apply!)
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To: Interesting Times

It’s unfortunate that the title they chose for the book is identical to the title of a book about the Watergate Break-in.

To set the record straight : the break-in, the tapes, the conspirators, the pardon / John J. Sirica.


36 posted on 12/07/2007 9:07:43 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT (The Swiss Ninja.)
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To: Interesting Times
The powerful story of a former member of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War who testified that Kerry personally pressured him to tell lies about military atrocities and war crimes at the group's 1971 "Winter Soldier" conference.

Same guy who stopped by to FReep on the day of the rally in DC?

37 posted on 12/07/2007 9:08:22 AM PST by GoLightly
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

“Makes me proud to have been a part of “setting the record straight”......I’ve yet to see kerry attempt to collect the million dollars from Boone Pickens....”

Yes indeedy. There has been sparse to no traffic coming out of the J F’n K ofice as of late.

Gee.

I wonder why........

:-)


38 posted on 12/07/2007 9:10:01 AM PST by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built)
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To: 1Old Pro; Interesting Times; mylife
Still fighting the Vietnam War.

...the enemedia that lost it for us. Hopefully the end result will be that they don't lose our current conflict for us. They're giving it a go though.

39 posted on 12/07/2007 9:10:35 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: Always Right
John O’Neill to Free Republic — Thanks for everything
40 posted on 12/07/2007 9:10:49 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
John O’Neill to Free Republic — Thanks for everything

Thanks for the link - I was just getting ready to go find that.

41 posted on 12/07/2007 9:12:36 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: mylife
I thought the book was about defending Kerry 3 years after the fact.

If Kerry had a defense you'd think we would have seen it by now.

42 posted on 12/07/2007 9:14:27 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times
If someone can prove Kerry DIDN'T testify to Congress that American soldiers were mass murderering sadists, and DIDN'T meet with the N Viets in Paris when they were there to negotiate with the USA and Kerry opposed the US and supported a communist victory ....

I'll give them a million dollars. The Swift Boats could not possibly have been wrong that Kerry is a lying disloyal anti military skunk.

43 posted on 12/07/2007 9:14:51 AM PST by Williams
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To: GoLightly
Same guy who stopped by to FReep on the day of the rally in DC?

I'm not sure. The reference is to Steve Pitkin, the former VVAW member who came forward in 2004 to say that John Kerry pressured him to tell lies about war crimes at the group's 1971 Winter Soldier hearings.

44 posted on 12/07/2007 9:17:11 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times

That headline is mis-leading. I thought I was going to read a slam on the Swift Boaters. Or maybe I have had too many Christmas cookies this morning.


45 posted on 12/07/2007 9:18:12 AM PST by trimom
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To: Big Mack
The MSM still believe, as do the dims, that if you tell a lie often enough, it will become the truth. The swiftboaters have proven this a wrong assumption.

No, lies still work.

They've created a new word "swiftboating" which is understood to mean "lying" about someone's record. Ironically, they've creating the new word by lying about what the Swiftboaters did. Demonstrating that the old adage about telling a lie often enough still works to counter the truth.

The Swiftboaters "won" by defeating John Kerry by telling the truth about him. But in the end they have been defined by the majority who are outside of the new media as the people who defeated Kerry by telling lies.

People around here know the truth. But the fact that people in the MSM can use the term "swiftboating" and be understood to be talking about liars demonstrates that there is more work to be done, and the patriots who wrote this book are doing it. Good for them.

46 posted on 12/07/2007 9:19:00 AM PST by Captain Pike
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To: trimom
That headline is mis-leading. I thought I was going to read a slam on the Swift Boaters.

Well, that's NewsMax.

Or maybe I have had too many Christmas cookies this morning.

Not possible.

47 posted on 12/07/2007 9:22:08 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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I'm not sure.

Yep, that's him! Watched his testimony on CSpan at the rally & it was very powerful, as was the testimony by all of the speakers that day.

48 posted on 12/07/2007 9:22:58 AM PST by GoLightly
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To: Interesting Times
Previously unpublished information on the "war crimes" propaganda effort that Kerry led during the Vietnam War, including material showing how the antiwar movement worked with the North Vietnamese and the Viet Cong.

If this is true, then US Navy Reserve Lt. Kerry would have committed Treason, and those covering for him (or refusing to prosecute him) would be accomplices. They will never prosecute him, because they would set the ball rolling for themselves to be prosecuted. This ball would continue rolling and expose current day Treason which would involve the Globalist conspirators and supporters of the Cross Border Invasion.

49 posted on 12/07/2007 9:24:18 AM PST by ghostrider
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To: lapster

Amen to that, Lapster!

Karl Rove is highly overrated.

The Swifties and their supporters made a huge difference in the month between the Dem and Repub. conventions in the summer of 2004.

It was sickening to hear the President and his campaign disparage these brave veterans.

It may yet be seen that this was the final battle of Vietnam—setting the record straight.


50 posted on 12/07/2007 9:24:48 AM PST by exit82 (How do you handle Hillary? You Huma her.)
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