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In God We Trust, Pledge of Allegiance Cases to be Argued at Ninth Circuit Tomorrow
Pacific Justice.Org ^ | 3-Dec-07 | Unknown

Posted on 12/03/2007 4:24:47 PM PST by Jay777

Two blockbuster religious liberty cases - involving the constitutionality of the Pledge of Allegiance in schools and "In God We Trust" on our money - will be heard this week by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco. PJI Chief Counsel Kevin Snider will be arguing alongside lawyers for the Department of Justice in defense of the national motto, "In God We Trust."

Both lawsuits were filed by atheist Michael Newdow, who claims that the Pledge of Allegiance and national motto are unconstitutional "establishments" of religion. Ninth Circuit judges have previously heard and agreed with Newdow's position that it violates the First Amendment to recite the Pledge of Allegiance in schools. However, the U.S. Supreme Court overturned that decision on jurisdictional grounds, prompting Newdow to re-file it with additional plaintiffs. The lawsuit against "In God We Trust" was filed by Newdow in late 2005. Pacific Justice Institute intervened as a co-defendant in the lawsuit to defend the constitutionality of the national motto. The Supreme Court has never decided a case directly dealing with the motto, but in several other cases Justices from across the ideological spectrum have pointed to the motto as an example of constitutional expression.

PJI Chief Counsel Kevin Snider, who will be presenting arguments in the motto case tomorrow, commented, "The national motto, 'In God We Trust,' is a perfectly permissible, commemorative acknowledgment of our nation's history and traditions. Without coercing anyone to adopt any religious viewpoint, it reminds us that our rights are a gift from God and are not at the discretion of the government."

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KEYWORDS: ingodwetrust; ninthcircuit; pledgeofallegiance
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1 posted on 12/03/2007 4:24:48 PM PST by Jay777
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To: Jay777

All bow to The Ninth Circus!


2 posted on 12/03/2007 4:32:15 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: Jay777

Does anybody harbor any illusions as to how these clowns will rule on this?

I hope this time Scalia doesn’t say anything so that he doesn’t have to recuse himself when this goes to SCOTUS.


3 posted on 12/03/2007 4:33:02 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: Jay777

Another attempt by socialists to destroy our democratic republic.


4 posted on 12/03/2007 4:35:42 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: Jay777
Pledge of Allegiance in schools

Red Skeltons - Pledge of Allegiance Commentary

Since I was a small boy,two states have been added to our country, and two words have been added to the Pledge of Allegiance: Under God. Wouldn't it be a shame if it was considered a prayer and removed from the classroom.

5 posted on 12/03/2007 4:36:00 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: mdittmar

Next will be, “endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights”.

Can’t teach that in schools, now can we?


6 posted on 12/03/2007 4:49:50 PM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: frogjerk

Who is funding all these turd Nudow’s actions?


7 posted on 12/03/2007 4:58:30 PM PST by traditional1 (Thompson/Hunter '08)
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To: Jay777

So if they find that “In God We Trust” is an unconstitutional establishment of religion, what happens? Does that mean that all money with that motto is now invalid in the Ninth Circuit’s jurisdiction?


8 posted on 12/03/2007 5:02:23 PM PST by phrogphlyer
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Our fathers came to this country for a reason so if they don’t like it we should leave?


9 posted on 12/03/2007 5:23:23 PM PST by MEpajamaMONSTER (duh whatever)
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To: Jay777

10 posted on 12/03/2007 5:34:31 PM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Jay777
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Only Congress has the power to establish a religion and they are restricted from doing so. God in the pledge of Allegiance, does not establish a religion. A prayer in school does not establish a religion, and a manger scene on public property does not establish a religion. People saying the Lord Jesus Christ's name does not establish a religion. Congress passing a law that says we all have to go to the Glory Bound Baptist Church every Sunday establishes a religion.

Now, Congress is also forbidden from prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Hence, the law of the land says you can not tell me that I can not put a manger scene or the Ten Commandments up. You can not tell me I can not pray. You can not tell me I can not say the Lord's name.

Socialist/Communist wish to remove God from public view so you and I will begin to forget about God. Why do they want you to forget about God? Well, I am an American. I pray to my God and we handle my problems. I do not pray to my Government. Once people have forgotten how to pray to their God for help, they will begin to pray to the Government for help. From the cradle to the grave.

It is imperative that we keep God in public view.

11 posted on 12/03/2007 5:51:45 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: do the dhue
It is imperative that we keep God in public view.

Just wanted to make sure this didn't get lost in your post! :^)

12 posted on 12/03/2007 5:55:46 PM PST by CAluvdubya (DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: Jay777
will be heard this week by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco.

Does anyone really wonder what their decision will be? If it weren't for the gutless GOP they would have broken the 9th up, but no, they're too wimpy!!

13 posted on 12/03/2007 5:56:05 PM PST by NRA2BFree
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To: CAluvdubya

THANKS!!


14 posted on 12/03/2007 5:56:46 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: molette67; NavyDude

ping


15 posted on 12/03/2007 5:57:18 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: Jay777

Generation X Conservative says it well:

Since the government is not forcing Michael Newdow or his atheist compatriots to practice Christianity, his case should be thrown out, but since judges like to create new laws and new interpretations of the Constitution as often as Bill Clinton drools over a woman who is not Hillary, we have to worry every time one of these cases come up.


16 posted on 12/03/2007 6:18:29 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last..)
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To: do the dhue

Excellent, and plainly stated.


17 posted on 12/03/2007 7:08:03 PM PST by pigsmith (Viewing life as a gift from God, I tend to regard self-defense more as an obligation.)
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To: pigsmith

Well appreciated.


18 posted on 12/03/2007 7:08:46 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: Jay777
Even an atheist should believe unalienable rights.

that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights

This is talking about God given rights which can not be taken away by Government or man.

If atheist Commies remove God from public view, it will be easier for Government to take away what God has given us.

Again, it is imperative that we keep God in public view.

19 posted on 12/03/2007 7:22:31 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: do the dhue

In fact, I’m keeping it (if no objections).


20 posted on 12/03/2007 7:27:14 PM PST by pigsmith (Viewing life as a gift from God, I tend to regard self-defense more as an obligation.)
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