Posted on 11/26/2007 6:09:33 PM PST by dervish
Their leaders that know what happened are pacified. The terrorists however are not. When that happens, in the Middle East, ever since the time of the Hashashins, the leaders are taken out, just like Sadat. The leadership has never really been the only problem over there. That was the lesson from Iraq. Political leaders are powerless when bombs are going off every day on the street. And one only has to look at the US/Mexican border and the US National Debt to learn all they need to learn about trusting DC.
Don't forget the King of Poland who stopped the Turks at Vienna.
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The mainstream State Department lost all credibility to me in June of 2004 when Condi Rice told the Israelis that we would more or less force them to accept the road-map for peace. Then the Bush Administration lost my respect for not sealing our border and instead attempting mass amnesty in the cloak of darkess, literally in the middle of the night. Hmm, NK and ‘six-party’ talks bound to fail.
Kim Jong respected the President and the USA for exactly a day. That was the day nine B2 bombers appeared within visual striking distance of Pyongyang when we invaded Iraq. Instead of more Khaddafi/Libya situations after 2004, our Condi led State Department decided we should all have tea together. Well fine, that is OK but why offer wonderful terms to dictators? How about the terms, ‘you disarm or your next?’ in person? Back then they would have believed us. Now we have a Dem Congress and know we have no leverage, only attempted bribery at the expense of our allies.
I have said that for four years. Our CIA has been surprised with the North Koreans having nukes in 1994, India & Pakistan in 1998, I could go on...
And the inevitable from that predicament should be anticipated. Nukes in the hand of terrorists. After the west has lost its first first City and we have no way to stop further loses of Cities, our civilization will change. There will be mass exoduses from the Cities. People will also be leaving the coastal areas. Oh well. Large cities were theoretically doomed as soon as the first nuke test was successful.
What would Israel do, if say Korea decided to build bombs for Syria, Egypt, Iran, Libya, etc?
Would Israel go so far as to bomb N Korea? And, how would they do it?
Israel knows they are in a fight for their survival, but in the USA, we’re only in the fight for the remote control, free govt cheese, and our rights to liberal freedom of speech. This will most likely result in dead Americans, in a number that is hard to count. Maybe even the death of the nation.
“And the inevitable from that predicament should be anticipated. Nukes in the hand of terrorists. After the west has lost its first first City and we have no way to stop further loses of Cities, our civilization will change. There will be mass exoduses from the Cities. People will also be leaving the coastal areas. Oh well. Large cities were theoretically doomed as soon as the first nuke test was successful.”
Hmmm. That could be true. The population might desert the cities en masse at first. I doubt they would flee the coasts permanently. For that, you probably would need to see a massive Tsunami created by the Atlantic methane gas build-up and eventual blow-up. This could happen tomorrow or a million years from now. The Tsunami would be a mile high and go inland about 20 miles. That would annihalate many millions and for many decades if not centuries, people would not want to live on the coast.
When one of our cities goes up in a nuclear fireball, investor and consumer confidence will be zero. The economy will collapse, martial law will be established and it will be a fight to eat and get medicines, clean water etc.
Chances are we will vaporize the country where the source originated along with any proxy nations involved. This will likely lead to globathermonuclear war.
This of course is exactly what the belief of the Shia Muslims is, that their savior the 12th Imam appears and establishes a global caliphate at a time when the world is burning. Countries like Iran feel it is there duty to begin the world burning by nuking Israel.
The USA has a choice, either attack and destroy this evil now or ignore it. Ignore it buys us a few more years of relative calm until the first nuke hits Israel or a US city. If Israel hit first, ME nuke war begins and ends with the price of oil $200 a barrel and US economic collapse within six months. If US city hit, economy collapses overnight.
Since nukes proliferated already, the only true option may very well to be a pre-emptive nuclear strike on four or five Iranian targets that destroy there military command centers, petroleum refining plant and nuclear development program.
You would spare much civilian casualties but tell every Muslim on earth that allah does not bless madmen whom claim the destruction of the Israel and the USA as a ‘responsibility’ and perhaps, allah is not even the Creator of this fine universe in the first place. The Japanese believed there emperor to as god until both Hiroshima and Nakasaki were vaporized. When Hirohito surrended, the populace realized there ‘god’ they blindly followed was a moron. See any devotees of a Japanese emperor these days?
This sound heinous and immoral BUT - I take Mahmoud Ahjimanidad at his word when he says that ‘Israel should be wiped from the map, it’s time to imagine a world without the USA’ and defiantely tells the entire world that they will not stop nuclear development.
Security issue. The Coasts have the same problems our Canadian and Mexican border have. They are wide open. The coastal cities are sitting ducks for a cargo ship nuke. Border cities are sitting ducks for a cargo plane nuke.
Chances are we will vaporize the country where the source originated along with any proxy nations involved.
I am not so sure of that anymore. Our Heads in the Sand Diplomacy has more or less closed the door on accurately determining who would have the capability to supply the terrorist organization with the nuke. After all, apparently now even Iran has stopped its program.
This sound heinous and immoral BUT - I take Mahmoud Ahjimanidad at his word when he says that ‘Israel should be wiped from the map, it’s time to imagine a world without the USA’ and defiantly tells the entire world that they will not stop nuclear development.
I agree. Why on Earth would anyone make such statements if they were not either insane or telling the truth about what they believe ?
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