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When a Mother Country Tells Its Kid, ‘Shut Up’
NY Times ^ | 11/25/07 | SIMON ROMERO

Posted on 11/25/2007 3:16:58 PM PST by Kid Shelleen

EVEN though they achieved independence more than a century ago, the Spanish-speaking nations of Latin America often look to Spain as a reference point. Sometimes the mother country is a foil, sometimes a support, sometimes a mirror, for what unfolds on this side of the Atlantic.

In recent weeks, Spain clearly has been cast as both a punching bag for Latin America’s leftists and a bastion of valor for its moderates, after a dissing match in which a king of Spain took offense at a Venezuelan president’s remarks and told him, very publicly: “Why don’t you shut up?”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chavez; juancarlos; spain

1 posted on 11/25/2007 3:16:59 PM PST by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

2 posted on 11/25/2007 3:23:19 PM PST by JRios1968 (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will. - Ben Stein)
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To: Kid Shelleen
Mr. Chávez has outlasted all of them in power, except for Mr. Bush, and may outlast him as well.

A dictator is clearly going to outlast democratically-elected leaders. Stalin outlasted Roosevelt. Only a journalist overly enamored of Hispanic "greatness" would compare any leader of a basket case country like Venezuela to a leader of a First World country.

3 posted on 11/25/2007 3:26:55 PM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: JRios1968

priceless graphic.


4 posted on 11/25/2007 3:36:12 PM PST by the invisib1e hand
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To: Kid Shelleen
Well, this wasn't as bad as I expected, considering the source. But one thing did bug me: When Daniel Ortega, the former Marxist rebel leader who is now Nicaragua’s president, took the microphone to defend Mr. Chávez, he also denounced a Spanish utility with a virtual monopoly on power distribution in Nicaragua.

And why does a Spanish utility have a virtual monopoly on power distribution there? Because THE SPANIARDS INVESTED THEIR MONEY THERE when no one else would, because of the risk. and when their government couldn't get it together enough to build a utility. Ortega, as usual, bites the hand that feeds him, or in this case, the hand that provides him with light and power. You can tell he is just itching to seize this asset, and the only thing that is holding him back is the sure knowlege that within three months, there would be no working utility.

5 posted on 11/25/2007 3:37:24 PM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Zhang Fei
Only a journalist overly enamored of Hispanic "greatness" would compare any leader of a basket case country like Venezuela to a leader of a First World country.

Or a nyt writer.

6 posted on 11/25/2007 3:37:33 PM PST by the invisib1e hand
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To: Kid Shelleen

The king’s now-classic remonstration became the top ringtone in Spanish-speaking countries virtually overnight. Take that, Chavez.


7 posted on 11/25/2007 3:40:47 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Who is the guy to the right of King Juan holding the stop it hand out to Chavez?


8 posted on 11/25/2007 3:52:53 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Kid Shelleen

It’s a bit disingenuous for the NYT to claim that Spain is Venezuela’s mother. Seems she cut her apron strings almost 200 years ago.


9 posted on 11/25/2007 4:09:24 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: jiggyboy
It's actually kinda' funny, if you think about it . . . one of the reasons the "squishy" reds are trying their best to "diminish" the King's outburst is that the (global) popular culture embraced it so easily.

I can think of no other reason why the press is working so hard to place what the King did in "context." It's because no one else really cares.

10 posted on 11/25/2007 4:10:36 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: yldstrk

That’s (current) Prime Minister Zapatero (also a lefty). He was sticking-up for former PM Aznar as well, but trying to be diplomatic about it.


11 posted on 11/25/2007 4:15:23 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Thanks.


12 posted on 11/25/2007 4:27:40 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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