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To: maddog55

Delivering a dozen nuclear attack submarines in a single year seems fast, perhaps a little too fast for the Chinese.

Given the close defense business relationship between the Chinese and Russian governments (e.g., the Chinese have the money and the Russians have the systems), is there any possibility that Russian shpyards are building and delivering these submarines covertly?

Might go a long way to explain where some of the surprises to US Intelligence are coming from.


14 posted on 11/21/2007 10:58:46 AM PST by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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To: Captain Rhino
Delivering a dozen nuclear attack submarines in a single year seems fast, perhaps a little too fast for the Chinese.

Not really when you consider the price of metals and oil are through the roof due the Chinese using their glut of American dollars to buy up all the strategic resources they can get their hands on.

And it's not like they have a labor shortage over there....

They are working as fast as they can to become THE un-challengeable superpower in Asia. And they are doing with the help of gullible American consumers.

21 posted on 11/21/2007 11:19:43 AM PST by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: Captain Rhino

>>>>Given the close defense business relationship between the Chinese and Russian governments (e.g., the Chinese have the money and the Russians have the systems), is there any possibility that Russian shpyards are building and delivering these submarines covertly?

This blog claims that Russia passed their NASA training onto China, so why not seas as well?

http://blog.barofintegrity.us/2007/10/23/chinas-space-program.aspx

Excerpt:

No, to be more precise, we have an astronaut-training programme. Whoa, whoa, that is not true either. We didn’t train anyone; we paid the Russians to train our astronaut.

Oh, blow it all. That is still wrong. He is not an astronaut; he is a cosmonaut. The terms, according to Nasa, mean different things but, according to the Russians (and us), they mean the same thing.


57 posted on 11/22/2007 7:03:19 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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