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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Shoot, I’d put Dembski and Behe up against any of the yahoos who routinely stump for evolution here on FR, and bet the house on the former.

Of course you would. But insults in the second paragraph aside the author is basically correct. ID is Creationism under an alias. And ID theory consists not of trying to prove their viewpoint, i.e. identify their designer and His methods, but trying to disprove Evolution and claim victory by default.

7 posted on 11/15/2007 5:38:04 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
And ID theory consists not of trying to prove their viewpoint, i.e. identify their designer and His methods, but trying to disprove Evolution and claim victory by default.

This statement alone shows that you have no idea what you're talking about. Have you even read any of the literature by men like Dembski and Behe and others, or are you just repeating the talking points you found at TalkOrigins?

9 posted on 11/15/2007 5:45:04 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: Non-Sequitur

ID = Creationism for Dummies

Sorry folks, I see no conflict between evolution theory and the Bible. One is science based, the other is faith based. Lets teach science in science class.


10 posted on 11/15/2007 5:45:18 AM PST by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Non-sequitur ... that's a good handle for you.

If the scientific evidence points to a creation, then what's your problem?

43 posted on 11/15/2007 6:16:29 AM PST by Juan Medén
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To: Non-Sequitur

Intelligent Design is Creatinism without the spectre of religion hanging over the discussion.

Of course, in the end, a decision has to be whether to accept or reject the idea of an intelligent designer.


104 posted on 11/15/2007 7:55:02 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Creationism is a Christian theological doctrine. ID is a philosophical approach that breaks with scientific materialism. It does not start with the same premises as the old argument from design. I am often surprised that men like Chris Hutchins seems to be stuck in the 19th Century, and argue as though they had never read William James or the phenomenologists. We cannot forget that all science starts with human beings and their nature.


174 posted on 11/15/2007 11:27:57 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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