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The Thompson Insurgency
11/10/2007 | Vanity

Posted on 11/10/2007 9:58:59 AM PST by Brices Crossroads

In September, I posted another vanity (linked below) in which I observed that the historical trends in this election favored Fred Thompson. Since then, his RCP average has dropped from about 22% to 16-17%. In the more volatile Rasmussen daily tracking poll, he has also dropped to 16%, about a 10 point drop from his post announcement high. In light of the above poll numbers, is it time for me to issue a mea culpa? No. This is not at all inconsistent with the hypothesis of my previous post.

Neither of the successful insurgent candidates in modern times, Reagan or Goldwater, has remained the frontrunner continuously. Reagan actually lost the mantle twice, both times in Iowa, when Gerald Ford upset him narrowly in 1976 and George H.W. Bush did the same in 1980. Goldwater was the underdog until he won the California primary. An insurgent candidacy cannot by definition be waged by a frontrunner. So Fred's poll numbers should not depress any of his supporters. In fact they ought to be a cause for quiet optimism. He remains in second place where he has been for the entire race. The Mainstream Media has bitten is tail trying to destroy him, much as it did Reagan. This has been beneficial in three ways that are not readily apparent. First, among fairminded GOP primary voters who are undecided (and overwhelmingly conservative), the attacks will be perceived as "over the top". Undecided voters in the GOP will not be sure who the elite establishment candidate is (I think it is Giuliani, principally, but an argument can be made that both Romney and McCain are default choices, in the event Giuliani implodes). They will be sure, however, who the establishment candidate is not. It is NOT Fred Thompson. Their contempt for Fred is not only a badge of honor for him, but in my opinion a magnet for votes among disaffected GOP conservatives, of whom there are many on Immigration, government spending and political correctness, among other issues.

Second, the barrage against Fred reflects a not very subtle anti-Southern bias in the elite. They despise the south in general and Fred's signature principle, Federalism, in particular. It stands in the way of their plans, which have been underway without interruption since Reagan left office in 1988, to concentrate power in Washington, D.C. This anti southern bias also plays into Thompson's hands, because it contains all the ingredients for a backlash among southern GOP primary voters. This backlash is magnified in importance because the South (having voted Republican so faithfully over the years) is apportioned relatively more delegates than its population would call for. Fred, as the only major southern candidate, would be the natural beneficiary of regional pride. His regional advantage will, in my opinion, be magnified by the not so subtle anti-southern bigotry of the elites.

Finally, the elites, and their MSM allies, are to be thanked for lowering expectations for Fred. They are basically telling GOP primary voters that it is over, he cannot win, etc. When he does better than expected, as I predict he will in every primary/caucus, it will cause a thunderclap in which he will be perceived as the victor, even if he does not place first in them all. Ironically, in lowering expectations, they are not damaging him among those of us who detest the elites and the MSM but they doing yeoman's work for the Thompson campaign. The free publicity Fred is virtually guaranteed to get after "exceeding expectations" could not be purchased with all of Romney's millions.

Just as a postscript, let me say something about insurgent candidates in general and Fred Thompson in particular. Insurgent candidates are uncomfortable and ineffective in the role of the frontrunner. Reagan was never comfortable in the role. Good, principled candidates are at their best on the offensive. Fred Thompson is no different. In his first election in Tennessee, he was at his best when he came from 20 points down to defeat a strong Democrat Congressman and to reclaim Al Gore's seat for the Republicans.

A frontrunner's campaign can be successful, but I do not believe it will be so this year. In any event, Fred Thompson is not the candidate to run such a campaign. His principles and honesty would be major impediments to such a "safe" strategy. However, in the particular circumstances the country and the Party find itself in in 2008, Fred Thompson is in exactly the position he needs to be to claim the GOP nomination. The times have indeed met the man.

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To: Paperdoll

“Since FDT enjoys the company of so many of the current administration, and of the Rockefeller Republicans, how can it be said the establishmeent is against him?”

I wasn’t aware that Duncan Hunter had cloistered himself away from the current administration. I am sure that if Hunter, good man that he is, could rise above 1% in the polls, he would attract similar disdain. The fact that he cannot, about which you are in perpetual denial, is the reason why he is ignored by all but his few partisans.


21 posted on 11/10/2007 10:40:34 AM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads

I was on the Thompson bandwagon but outside of FR I havent heard of anything on him lately. Im beginning to wonder if this silence could occur again during a general election campaign if he were to win in the primaries. Im debating whether or not I should also go silent on Thompson and look for another possibility.


22 posted on 11/10/2007 10:41:02 AM PST by tsowellfan (http://www.youtube.com/CafeNetAmerica)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Whether or not, as you said, “The whole country had an opinion,” has nothing to do with my comment. The whole country was not as immersed in the day-to-day details of the situation as folk here at FR were. Your comment is illogical, to say the least. But, then, it appears that you have another iron in the fire.


23 posted on 11/10/2007 10:42:44 AM PST by Clara Lou (Thompson '08)
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To: papasmurf

That’s gonna leave a mark...

Another “Fair Weather Fredder” bites the dust of truth...


24 posted on 11/10/2007 10:43:14 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: Brices Crossroads; floriduh voter; amdgmary

I think when an innocent disabled woman is killed in a clear miscarriage of justice, killed by slow starvation and dehydration, a conservative candidate ought to be able to say he knew the details and was horrified. At least.
I think when Fred made those comments he came off indifferent and/or dismissive, and it affected his ratings.
He’s our best shot, but IMO he shot himself in the foot that time.


25 posted on 11/10/2007 10:45:26 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Call me a pro-life zealot with a 1-track mind.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

It’s ridiculous how James Dobson said he and his followers wouldn’t vote for Thompson if he won the nomination. The fact is he is the most conservative candidate who has a shot at winning the nomination.

Dobson might as well vote for Hillary, the fool.


26 posted on 11/10/2007 10:46:15 AM PST by newenglandredneck (Secure our borders: Tancredo 08)
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To: Brices Crossroads
All the speculation about Fred is interesting; I can't help but indulge in it myself. I support him, but he's running his campaign in a manner that suits him.

It's low-key and I'm not sure how it will work in the end -- we'll see soon enough.

27 posted on 11/10/2007 10:46:32 AM PST by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: Clara Lou

I do not have another iron in the fire. If you think I did, let’s hear your evidence. That’s logical.


28 posted on 11/10/2007 10:46:58 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Call me a pro-life zealot with a 1-track mind.)
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To: tsowellfan

Thompson is regularly featured in posting on Rightwingnews.com and Red State, to name two. His comments are frequently linked on Hotair.com. FR is by no means the only place to get news on Fred, If you are really interested.


29 posted on 11/10/2007 10:49:41 AM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: ejonesie22

Just how weak the faith is, in some people, of the choices and decisions they have made, by their own volition and without duress, blows me away.

I’ve said it before, and it bears repeating (cause it’s so much fun),... I would love to be the door to door salesman when they open the door.


30 posted on 11/10/2007 10:52:38 AM PST by papasmurf (sudo apt - get install FRed Thompson)
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To: delacoert; Brices Crossroads
DC challenges Brices:

...who are you and why should I care about your political opinions?

Exactly! Why should you? Which is why I puzzle on your even posting the inquiry.

As for me, I know Brices to be particularly eloquent in evaluating critical concepts. I don't assume that he wants me to care, as it appears you do. I do figure that if he posted it, it's probably well-stated and provocative. I don't care about Brice's political opinions and I would bet that Brices doesn't care about mine, either. I do care that he's a poster of demonstrated skill.

The real question is, why do you care? But you know what? I REALLY DON'T CARE!!! ;^)

31 posted on 11/10/2007 10:52:49 AM PST by Finny (There are many enemies in our work. One of them is envy. -- A British naval officer)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Is there some kind of Duncan Hunter Random Nonsense Word Generator that you use to make up these little screeds against FRed?

***************

LOL! Ouch! :)

32 posted on 11/10/2007 10:53:40 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: delacoert; Brices Crossroads
...who are you and why should I care about your political opinions?

I think you should pay attention to his opinion because it is clear, cogent, and well-written.

I don't think his opinions would be any more valid that he had announced a brilliant pedigree or any less persuasive if Brices Crossroads were not a certified conservative.

Forgive my intrusion. It is a hobbyhorse of mine that Free Republic should evaluate ideas on their own merits.


33 posted on 11/10/2007 10:55:39 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack,repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
IMO, Fred’s decline in the polls seems to have begun when he said of the Schiavo case (on 9/13)IMO, Fred’s decline in the polls seems to have begun when he said of the Schiavo case (on 9/13)

In Rasmussen, Thompson hit his high water mark a full two weeks later. This was the point at which the full press of negative articles kicked in and his numbers began to shrink.

34 posted on 11/10/2007 10:55:50 AM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his Lacking Decisive Stands.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

:) No just an accumulation of factual information.


35 posted on 11/10/2007 10:57:59 AM PST by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
I'll modify my comment, agreeing with a FReeper above who said I find no “wind in your sails” to begin with concerning FRed.
36 posted on 11/10/2007 10:58:33 AM PST by Clara Lou (Thompson '08)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Do you think it is workable, as a national policy, to pass special bills in such circumstances? Because if you do, I disagree. I think Terry Schiavo was a tragedy, and if I could have saved her, I would have. That said, this is what happens when you elect judges like Greer and the Florida Supreme Court. Elections have consequences. Sometimes tragic consequences. But the federal government cannot be the backstop for 10 million state court rulings per year. It would not work and would wind up creating more miscarriages of justice than it would remedy. That is all Fred was saying, and I don’t know how his view can be reasonably disputed.


37 posted on 11/10/2007 10:58:55 AM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: papasmurf

Indeed..

However I also thing there is another factor at work, another trade if you will...

That of the BS artist...


38 posted on 11/10/2007 11:00:01 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: trisham

It doesn’t take much to amuse you, does it, trish? See 35.


39 posted on 11/10/2007 11:00:32 AM PST by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Paperdoll

Now, now. Don’t demean yourself.


40 posted on 11/10/2007 11:01:03 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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