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Ron Paul: Israel bought Jesse Helms
The Ron Paul Political Report | Volume 1 Number 1 | Ron Paul

Posted on 11/09/2007 11:48:01 AM PST by LSUfan

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To: DugwayDuke

I see. :) I do hope one of the other candidates will grow a pair and bring this up and let Paul explain it that way to the American people. The candidates may be thinking exposing Paul may do more harm to the GOP than just keeping quiet and hoping he will go away. This is a miscalculation on their part in my opinion.


101 posted on 11/10/2007 4:16:14 PM PST by WildcatClan (DUNCAN HUNTER- The only choice for true conservatives)
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To: WildcatClan

Then it is OK with you if I drive on the interstates since I have paid for them even if I think that the federal government should not have financed them?


102 posted on 11/10/2007 8:01:01 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Iwo Jima

Of course it is ok with me. Not sure I understand the question. I thought what was at issue here, was you posting to someone that because of the “Interstate Highways” they somehow didn’t believe in the Constitution? I made the point that the Federal Government is constitutionally authorized to provide for the national defense. The Interstate Highways were all about national defense and were considered by Eisenhower to be very important to our national defense.

Tell me what is unconstitutional about interstate highways? Because you don’t feel they were necessary or you didn’t want to pay for them? I think perhaps some think of the Constitution as some magical document held in a locked box of which only Ron Paul holds the key. I assure you, nothing could be farther from the truth. Eisenhower thought the Interstates were important to our national defense and I am not going to second guess him. I don’t have the gravitas nor the credibilty to second guess one of the great generals in American history. Neither does Ron Paul and I think he is quite the highway builder himself. We could argue if the sun was constitutional but since it is already there, any points would be moot and the debate, therefore, futile.


103 posted on 11/11/2007 12:17:10 AM PST by WildcatClan (DUNCAN HUNTER- The only choice for true conservatives)
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To: LSUfan
Jessie Helms, Ron paul notes

in 1984 Israeli PACs and associated wealthy businessmen helped bankroll Helm’s expensive reelection campaign against former governor Jim Hunt.
. Part of the Israeli effort to ally with Evangelicals.

Interestingly the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, an anti-Israel publication reports

As a result, the Israel lobby invested perhaps one of the country’s biggest campaign contributions per capita in an attempt to unseat Jesse Helms. Pro-Israel political action committees poured an astonishing $222,342 into the campaign of Helms’ opponent, North Carolina Governor James Hunt. Hunt’s campaign secretary proclaimed that “Senator Helms has the worst anti-Israel record in the United States Senate and supporters of Israel throughout the country know it.”

Fair to say one of them’s wrong, though to a certain brand of Israel critic it doesn’t matter if donations went to Helms or Hunt, things can be spun either way.

104 posted on 11/11/2007 3:17:27 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: esopman
I DON’T KNOW ABOUT JESSE HELMS. BUT, I DO KNOW I WISH RON PAUL WOULD GO AWAY! HE IS A DISTURBING (AND I THINK, ‘DISTURBED’) PERSON ...

Note my comment in post 104 where another anti-Israel source contends undefined Israeli PACs contributed not to Helms, but to his opponent. IMO there's little credibility to the charge.

105 posted on 11/11/2007 3:20:36 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: KevinDavis
I visited Stormfront for a brief second (I have to wash myself) and yes there is a Ron Paul for President banner.. All Ron Paul has to do is ask them to take it down...

Alternatively, block incoming traffic from the site. Given the fact that Paul has accepted a $500 contribution from Stormfront's founder, a felon, which he's declined to return, I doubt you'll see any action.

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106 posted on 11/11/2007 3:25:05 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: WildcatClan
Eisenhower thought the Interstates were important to our national defense and I am not going to second guess him.

I prefer to think for myself.

The point is that another poster said that since I did not believe that the federal government should build highways that I shouldn't drive on them.

Whatever the justification might have been for the federal government to build an interstate highway system, that was done long ago. Road building should be a state and local function. It would be better, cheaper, and faster. Like most things, such as education, it just makes matters worse -- more costly, complicated, bureaucratic, and corrupt-- to get the federal government involved.

Your reference to the sun is most confusing. We have no control over the sun through our constitution or otherwise. Our federal government is not as impervious to our actions as the sun, although it and its worshipers may believe it to be so.
107 posted on 11/11/2007 5:22:31 AM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: SJackson; All

Agreed..


108 posted on 11/11/2007 6:29:20 AM PST by KevinDavis (Mitt Romney 08)
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To: Iwo Jima
"I prefer to think for myself."

As Do I, but we don't live in an anarchy or a nihilistic society. My point concerning the sun is that it is there, just like the Interstates, that ship has sailed.

109 posted on 11/11/2007 10:51:23 AM PST by WildcatClan (DUNCAN HUNTER- The only choice for true conservatives)
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Co-authors of the third edition of this piece of trash include Jimmy Carter, Robert Byrd, James Zogby, and Cynthia McKinney, as well as Pat Buchanan's buddy Charley Reese. I'm a little surprised Ron Paul isn't listed.

They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israel's Lobby They Dare to Speak Out:
People and Institutions
Confront Israel's Lobby

by Paul Findley


110 posted on 11/17/2007 10:12:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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