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Lots of logs, not enough loggers
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| February 1, 2005
| Cliff Thompson
Posted on 11/07/2007 1:21:09 PM PST by george76
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To: george76
The same preservationism that drove out the forestry industry is the cause of the pine beetle infestation. Now that global warming is blamed for everything, the envirowhackos who caused this problem are trying to convince people that global warming is the cause. These forests were too old, and weakened — the infestation was inevitable.
We have a huge problem with pine beetles in BC too. The cause was too vigorous fire suppression — but, global warming is being blamed (with zero evidence to support it).
To: george76
having grown up in a washington state logging town, I can say there are PLENTY of loggers.
Only they are now desk clerks at the Local Super 8 motel
Thanks, granola heads!
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posted on
11/07/2007 1:52:00 PM PST
by
llevrok
(Born a ham and never cured.)
To: Vigilanteman
the national forests should be privatized to pay off the national debt or turned over to their respective states F#$% that ... just reactivate the Homestead act and give the land back to the citizens.
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:02:24 PM PST
by
Centurion2000
(False modesty is as great a sin as false pride.)
To: george76
Had a local-owned sawmill in my neck of the woods that’s been around longer than my half-century shutdown this summer. Sad to see it not operating. Affected a good number of sawmillers as well as timber haulers. Heard it was Canadian timber driving prices down that led to them closing their operations. I don’t know if that’s a fact though.
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:05:06 PM PST
by
OB1kNOb
(Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
To: george76
“I own a lumber company??? Need some wood??”
</Dubya>
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:12:27 PM PST
by
BreitbartSentMe
(Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*)
To: TenthAmendmentChampion; Vigilanteman
Government lands in this country (anything with color) .... this is outrageous.
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:14:28 PM PST
by
Centurion2000
(False modesty is as great a sin as false pride.)
To: TenthAmendmentChampion
Wow!!! What a magnificent tagline!!! (thanks for da ping)
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:16:27 PM PST
by
SierraWasp
(If Dems had brains they'd be Repubs. And when they learned to use 'em, they'd be CONSERVATIVES!!!)
To: george76
Gee the UNION word was never used today.
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:19:45 PM PST
by
Domangart
(editor and publisher)
To: Centurion2000; TenthAmendmentChampion
All that government “owned” land makes me want to howl like that dumb wolf on that National Wilderness Institute logo!!! Is this map their creation? If so, are they braggin, or complainin???
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:21:52 PM PST
by
SierraWasp
(If Dems had brains they'd be Repubs. And when they learned to use 'em, they'd be CONSERVATIVES!!!)
To: SierraWasp
Wow, thanks SW. Check out the map a few posts up. Sad...
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:54:47 PM PST
by
TenthAmendmentChampion
(Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
To: SierraWasp
Oops, never mind, you commented on the map already.
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posted on
11/07/2007 2:56:44 PM PST
by
TenthAmendmentChampion
(Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
To: llevrok; Grampa Dave; calcowgirl
Lots of good folks were loggers.
We need them and they want to get back to work.
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posted on
11/07/2007 4:35:30 PM PST
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA; jazusamo
After several years / sets of LA fires, this may get some attention.
Fires in the ‘fly over areas’ like Montana, Idaho, Colorado, Utah, Washington...do not get front page breaking news national coverage.
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posted on
11/07/2007 4:38:27 PM PST
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: OB1kNOb; crz; HairOfTheDog
With the loonie up and dollar down, Canadian lumber may get more expensive ?
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posted on
11/07/2007 4:39:47 PM PST
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: Centurion2000; forester; editor-surveyor; marsh2; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp
and don’t you dare ride your dirt bike or 4wd on these lands...
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posted on
11/07/2007 5:30:57 PM PST
by
tubebender
(My weight is perfect for my height... which varies...)
To: tubebender; forester; Grampa Dave; george76; dalereed; NormsRevenge; Syncro
I’d like to put hill climbin knobby dirt bike tire prints right on their dumb butts!!! (whilst I’m still young and healthy enough to stand up on the pegs!!!)
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posted on
11/07/2007 6:34:06 PM PST
by
SierraWasp
(If Dems had brains they'd be Repubs. And when they learned to use 'em, they'd be CONSERVATIVES!!!)
To: george76
As the second larget timber producing county in California, we had several mills in the 1980s. All the dimensional wood saw mills and the moulding plant have closed. All we have left is two plywood veneer mills that take trees under about 23 inches in diameter.
At a meeting I attended with the US Forest Service Chief, a gentleman from Sierra Pacific pointed out that the region is losing its timber infrastructure:
1. USFS sawlog volume accounts for only 15% of total volume harvested in CA
2. Mills have closed, many mills currently working reduced shifts due to reduction in volume of wood
3. From 06 to 07, there has been a 26% drop in USFS sawlog volume and a 9% drop in non-sawlog volume.
4. The existing infrastructure is at risk and all depends on sawlog volume, not firewood or biomass.
5. There is a disconnect in the USFS in determining what is an economical timber sale.
The Chief said there was a lack of “social license” to harvest trees anymore.
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:22:57 PM PST
by
marsh2
To: george76
environmentalists,, Perfect StormTroopers.. saving dead wood (so it can catch fire and consume forests and wildlife.. oh.. and residents, most of them taxpayers)
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:46:38 PM PST
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
To: tubebender
Who’s dirt bike should I ride on them if I can’t ride mine?
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posted on
11/07/2007 7:56:52 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
To: george76
Standing dead timber isn’t much good for anything but building log houses. It’s too dry, cracked, and twisted for milling.
They should know enough to throw in some good trees to pay the bills if they want any bidders. The trees are growing way faster than we can ever cut them; it’s time to get in gear.
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posted on
11/07/2007 8:01:59 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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