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Dems Must Get Serious About Illegals
Real Clear Politics ^ | November 6, 2007 | Froma Harrop

Posted on 11/05/2007 9:46:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: End Times Crusader
That’s exactly what Comprehensive Immigration Reform would have done yet so many here were determined to see it fail.

CIR would have legalized the status of 12 to 20 million illegal aliens allowing them to stay and work here. It also would have allowed family reunification under chain migration bringing in almost immediately tens of millions more. Amnesty doesn't work. We have tried it.

21 posted on 11/06/2007 5:12:01 AM PST by kabar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Except for a few, most of Congress is complicit in the attempt of give amnesty to illegals. Both Repubs and Dims.

IMO, this issue will come to the forefront during the next year. I hope to see a lot of surprised looks come election day, 2008.


22 posted on 11/06/2007 5:13:47 AM PST by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Between them, the 9-11 hijackers had 63 validly issued driver's licenses.

Eight of them were even registered to vote in American elections.

Under federal "motor voter" law, anyone receiving a driver's license automatically may register to vote.

Nothing but the "honesty" of illegal aliens prevents them from breaking one more law, and voting in American elections.

And Hillary Clinton thinks we should give driver's licenses to illegal aliens.

I wonder why?

QUISLING: a synonym for traitor, someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country.




23 posted on 11/06/2007 5:40:15 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: End Times Crusader

CIR was amnesty. Anybody who can’t see that or pretends otherwise is a liar or an idiot.


24 posted on 11/06/2007 5:41:42 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Haddit; Travis McGee; Calpernia; Sun
We want them gone and the employers thrown in jail.

Huge Ditto!

25 posted on 11/06/2007 5:42:08 AM PST by Mr Apple ( "VIDEO CHINAGATE" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2970981220206109356)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yup. The Democrats need to hurry up and get ‘em registered to vote.

That is the plan, right?

26 posted on 11/06/2007 5:49:12 AM PST by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Does anyone believe that the MAJORITY of politicians in this country favors amnesty?!

YES!

The GOP idiots better take the bull by the horns and declare the following Illegal Immigration policy :

- will build the fence/wall and make borders airtight within 6 mo. to one year. Period.

- enforce existing laws and punish illegals' employers a la Arizona law, no ifs or buts about it.

- absolutely no amnesty in any shape or form

- revisit the 14th Amendment and stress: "NO ANCHOR BABIES"

- stop Mexico's interference in the USA internal affairs. No Mexican consulates' personnel are allowed to shout at or even talk to LEOs, NATIOWIDE, unless called upon by US authorities.

- starting with any traffic infraction, up to felonies by illegals, will result in immediate deportation or serving time then deportation.

- unite families of any arrested illegals; their families are deported with them immediately. If the person has to serve time, his family is deported immediately

- reporters of any sob stories in the media are subject to divulging the identity or whereabouts of the illegal(s) they interview under the penalty of aiding and abetting fugitives.

- any demonstration of illegals is to be surrounded by LEOs and hauled to a detention center to filter out American citizens. The rest, including LEGAL ALIENS", are deported ASAP with the bills sent to their home embassies. If "most” of the GOP candidates in '08 grow some spines, they WILL take back the Congress in ’08, hands down. That will mitigate the impending disaster if Ho She Marx takes the WH, God forbid.

27 posted on 11/06/2007 7:59:30 AM PST by melancholy (Beware of Ho Chi Minh's offspring, Ho She Marx , invading the WH.)
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To: Travis McGee; gubamyster; 2ndDivisionVet

BUMP-TO-THE-TOP! Thanks for the ping, gubamyster. Thanks for posting, 2ndDivisionVet.


28 posted on 11/06/2007 8:01:50 AM PST by PGalt
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To: melancholy

Amen and right on!!!


29 posted on 11/06/2007 8:05:45 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (Giving amnesty to illegal aliens is like giving land and aid to "Palestinians")
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To: melancholy; Travis McGee; Calpernia; backhoe; dixiechick2000; Sun; 2ndDivisionVet; Haddit; ...
Saw your post #27 melancholy and wanted to add that I was listening to a conservative radio morning talk show about ten days ago and the guest speaker was Congressman Culberson R/Houston. I tuned in late, but I did hear Culberson state that in Texas, as of October 31, 2007, any and all illegals caught coming into Texas would immediately be taken to jail for a mandatory, six month jail sentence.

Culberson stated that the Houston Chronicle newspaper had already run a story (the morning before this radio program) blaming Pres. Bush for this automatic, mandatory six month sentence. Culberson pointed out that it had nothing to do with President Bush and that the six month automatic sentence had been on the books for a long time, but will, as of October 31st, 2007 - be fully enforced. The radio interviewer added that the Houston Chronicle does and has always tried to make President Bush and all conservatives look bad.

(and of course, I didn't see this article in the Houston Chronicle - because I haven't taken that paper in over 9 years - and never will again)

Go Culberson Go.

Go Mandatory Six Month Prison Sentences for Illegals Go!!

30 posted on 11/06/2007 2:12:36 PM PST by Mr Apple ( "VIDEO CHINAGATE" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2970981220206109356)
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To: Travis McGee; 2ndDivisionVet
Maybe I missed it, but surprised not to find this, now mandatory six month jail sentence story here at fr. Perhaps I didn't do a correct seach, but I did check under: Culberson. Got any ideas on this 2ndDivisionVet? Thank you.
[also, as with most all liberal newspapers, the Houston Comical has low circulation I'd bet)
31 posted on 11/06/2007 2:20:20 PM PST by Mr Apple ( "VIDEO CHINAGATE" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2970981220206109356)
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To: Mr Apple

Speaking of Texas, known terrorists were caught going acrosss the Mexican/Texas border.

Duncan Hunter authored the bill for a fence from California thru TEXAS, which was signed into law, and click to see the fence!

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/images2/image124.jpg

It is a DOUBLE fence with border patrol in-between, and note the CLIMB-PROOF BARRIER at the top.

Get this fence BUILT, Mr. Chertoff! Stop the excuses!


32 posted on 11/06/2007 3:38:23 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Mr Apple; All
Go Culberson Go.

Go Mandatory Six Month Prison Sentences for Illegals Go!!

Amen. Good for culberson and thank you Mr. Apple.

FYI, I developed my post #27 to what I believe it should be. comments/additions/use are invited. Here it is:

The GOP idiots better take the bull by the horns and declare the following Illegal Immigration policy :

- will build the fence/wall and make borders airtight within 6 mo. to one year. Period.

- enforce existing laws and punish illegals' employers a la Arizona law, no ifs or buts about it.

- absolutely no amnesty in any shape or form

- revisit the 14th Amendment and stress: "NO ANCHOR BABIES"

- stop Mexico's interference in the USA internal affairs. No Mexican consulates' personnel are allowed to shout at or even talk to LEOs, NATIOWIDE, unless called upon by US authorities.

- starting at any traffic infraction up to felonies by illegals will result in immediate deportation or serving time then deportation.

- unite families of any arrested illegals; their families are deported with them immediately. If the person has to serve time, his family is deported immediately

- reporters of any sob stories in the media are subject to divulging the identity or whereabouts of the illegal(s) they interview under the penalty of aiding and abetting fugitives.

- any demonstration of illegals is to be surrounded by LEOs and hauled to a detention center to filter out American citizens. The rest, including LEGAL ALIENS", are deported ASAP with the bills sent to their home embassies.

- no IDs of any sort and shame on us if some states “accept” Mexican IDs. That’s including but no limited to, DLs of ANY tier. Learn from Her Thighness choke act! - no perks or programs whatsoever, SS, food stamps, kids’ programs, education** (free or PAID), healthcare*, etc.

- *emergency room treatment is what it means: EMERGENCY TREATMENT, then deportation. A cold or non-emergency gets a phone call to ICE----->deportation

- **education: NONE. Citizens are encouraged to demand school enrollment through ID papers for citizens' and LEGAL ALIENS’ children only or else, a property tax withholding of the education portion, period. Are they going to foreclose on millions of houses? The banking industry will be outraged and they, grudgingly, will have to support us! That will answer the illegals' Intifada with a tax Intifada of our own and will see who wins when the local government critters' and teachers' salaries stop flowing!

If "most” of the GOP candidates in '08 grow some spines, they WILL take back the Congress in ’08, hands down. That will mitigate the impending disaster if Ho She Marx takes the WH, God forbid.

Now liberals are threatening us with what they call an Illegal Aliens' Intifada

http://www.miamiherald.com/418/story/295183.html

A violent conflict will have terrible consequences for all, however, it might get this country cleaned up from illegals and their liberal enablers shackling us with the garbage we "have" to pay for.

No illegals left behind, in the US that is, and that's the way I see it.

33 posted on 11/06/2007 4:15:12 PM PST by melancholy (Beware of Ho Chi Minh's offspring, Ho She Marx , invading the WH.)
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To: Sun
Get this fence BUILT,

ASAP !!

34 posted on 11/06/2007 9:26:33 PM PST by Mr Apple ( "VIDEO CHINAGATE" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2970981220206109356)
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To: melancholy

Bttt


35 posted on 11/06/2007 9:26:52 PM PST by Mr Apple ( "VIDEO CHINAGATE" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2970981220206109356)
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To: SatinDoll

Can’t trust the pubbies on this either, Satindoll, and we need the Dim candidates to “get it” in case any of ‘em win. I want them ALL to get the flick more than I want party victory. Rinos and Dims tried to sell the country down the river on amnesty, and W was leading the charge!


36 posted on 11/06/2007 10:10:22 PM PST by endangeredfaces
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To: Haddit
They still don’t get it. We want them gone and the employers thrown in jail.

No more calls, please -- we have a winner!

37 posted on 11/07/2007 1:36:40 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Dems Must Get Serious About Illegals....”

They’re quite serious enough as it is..about getting them the vote for 2008!!


38 posted on 11/07/2007 1:38:38 AM PST by mo
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To: Mr Apple
The radio interviewer added that the Houston Chronicle does and has always tried to make President Bush and all conservatives look bad.

No kidding? That's like saying that Lord Haw-Haw "dissented" from Churchill, or that Tokyo Rose "had issues" with FDR.

Editor Jeff Cohen once admitted publicly (at a going-away party for his outgoing editorial-page editor, who was going to work for Mayor Bill White, former Texas Democratic Party chief, as his PA aide) that he was brought to Houston to take the Chronicle to the left, presumably to move the voting public to the left. The Chron is owned by Hearst.

The editorial stance of the Chron can now be best described as smoldering, glow-in-the-dark hatred for Texans and Houstonians in general, most especially churchgoers and conservatives. Anyone who isn't a black racist, Chicano la Raza ethnocentrist, illegal alien, communist, or in-your-face homosexual is a suspect. (No, you can't be in the closet, you coward!) Most of their editorials are left-wing rants.

Does Hearst have a Winger agenda in other communities their fishwrappers serve? Anyone know?

39 posted on 11/07/2007 1:59:58 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think the author is wrong about a “conditional” amnesty.

Americans have been burned with previous “one-time” amnesty deals and we expect secure borders and enforcement—not more game playing and broken promises.


40 posted on 11/07/2007 2:07:18 AM PST by Nickname
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