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Anti-war movies hurt America - and debase the art of film
New York Daily News ^ | 11/1/07 | Govindini Murty

Posted on 11/01/2007 5:03:49 AM PDT by StatenIsland

If Tokyo Rose were alive today, she wouldn't get jail time - she'd get a three-picture deal.

Throwing all caution and fiscal sanity to the winds, the Hollywood establishment is releasing a slate of anti-war films that do violence to the cause of American victory - and to the art form of film.

Art is best served by an open competition of ideas. When only the anti-war left is allowed to make films in Hollywood and pro-American voices are excluded, the result is movies that are ideologically rigid, morally shallow and creatively sterile. Is it any wonder that recent anti-war films like "Rendition" and "In the Valley of Elah" have bombed at the box office?

Hollywood's enforced ideological conformity is obvious: "Elah," the Tommy Lee Jones vehicle now in theaters, and "Redacted," directed by Brian DePalma and set for release later this month, both depict American troops in Iraq as murderers and psychopaths. "Rendition," released last month, asserts that the American government allows innocent Muslim civilians to be tortured. "Lions for Lambs," featuring Robert Redford and Tom Cruise, depicts a venal Republican senator risking the lives of American troops in order to advance his political career. "Stop Loss," starring Ryan Phillippe, posits that the only noble American soldier is the one who refuses to serve.

Even the relatively tame "The Kingdom" concludes with a coda that draws a moral equivalency between American CIA agents and Saudi terrorists.

These films and others are the crescendo of three years' worth of anti-war films. Even our sacred memories of World War II have been tarnished in recent years by films like "The Good German" (a ghastly, morally confused remake of "Casablanca").

This proliferation of anti-war cinema in the midst of a war is unprecedented. In World Wars I and II, Hollywood filmmakers - both conservative and liberal - rushed to support the war effort regardless of which administration was leading it.

During the Great War, conservative stars like Mary Pickford and Douglas Fairbanks worked with liberals like Charlie Chaplin to raise millions of dollars through Liberty Loan drives.

During the Second World War, Hollywood's Republican studio heads - patriots like Louis B. Mayer, Jack Warner and Darryl F. Zanuck - did not hesitate to make films supporting the war effort when Democrat Franklin Roosevelt asked for their help. Great pro-war films like "Casablanca," "To Have and Have Not," "Sergeant York" and the "Why We Fight" series were the result.

Hollywood's support for American military efforts continued during the Korean War and into the early Vietnam era. Despite growing anti-war sentiment, the studios made not a single major anti-Vietnam War movie while our troops were still on the ground fighting. The only notable Vietnam movie made during the war, John Wayne's "The Green Berets," was ardently pro-American.

That all changed when the Baby Boomers took over Hollywood in the 1970s and weaved a new cinematic narrative of anti-American self-loathing. This narrative is now being applied to the post-9/11 world - and dissenting conservative voices are being systematically excluded.

Talented filmmakers like Cyrus Nowrasteh (ABC's "The Path to 9/11"), Emmy Award-winning screenwriter Robert Avrech ("Body Double"), novelist and screenwriter Andrew Klavan (Clint Eastwood's "True Crime") and actor Robert Davi ("Profiler") have all tried to get pro-war projects made these past three years, and have all been turned down by the Hollywood system.

Even superstar Bruce Willis has tried to get a film made about the famed "Deuce Four" battalion serving in Iraq - but has gotten nowhere with the studios.

The resulting ideological conformity is a disaster both for America and for the art form of film. Art must serve truth if it is to be compelling. When Hollywood systematically muddies distinctions between freedom-loving Americans and terrorists, it's no wonder the resulting films resemble the tedious "Rendition" - instead of enthralling classics like "Casablanca."

It's hard to tell good stories when you equivocate about tyranny - and even harder to get the public to go along with it.


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The essay speaks for itself. And is it not refreshing to hear someone use the words "patriotism" and freedom-loving Americans" without spitting?

We could use more of that.

1 posted on 11/01/2007 5:03:50 AM PDT by StatenIsland
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To: StatenIsland
Thankfully, these movie makers are punishing themselves. After the tenth anti-war film in a row bombs at the box-office, maybe they will get the message.

I am really looking forward to seeing the opening number for Lions for Lambs. This thing is getting heavy promotion, and has Streep/Cruise/Redford. When this turkey tanks, it will be obvious to everyone that anti-war movies are box office poison.

2 posted on 11/01/2007 5:08:58 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: StatenIsland

Good article!

BTW, I thought the ending of The Kingdom was less about moral equivalency than about the fact that the enemy (Islam) doesn’t plan to give up - and neither do we. There can be only one winner, and the battle is going to go on until the other side is wiped out.


3 posted on 11/01/2007 5:09:03 AM PDT by livius
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To: StatenIsland
Talented filmmakers like Cyrus Nowrasteh (ABC's "The Path to 9/11"), Emmy Award-winning screenwriter Robert Avrech ("Body Double"), novelist and screenwriter Andrew Klavan (Clint Eastwood's "True Crime") and actor Robert Davi ("Profiler") have all tried to get pro-war projects made these past three years, and have all been turned down by the Hollywood system.

Even superstar Bruce Willis has tried to get a film made about the famed "Deuce Four" battalion serving in Iraq - but has gotten nowhere with the studios.

Mel Gibson, when he tried to make "The Passion" had the same story. Then he put up his OWN money and made the 4th biggest blockbuster movie of all time...

4 posted on 11/01/2007 5:09:15 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: StatenIsland

I am escaping the world...
Watching old flicks from the 1930’s..

Try it you might like it.


5 posted on 11/01/2007 5:11:25 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: StatenIsland

The propaganda war can be as important as the shooting war.

That was why the communists sought to take over Hollywood back in the late 40s/early 50s.


6 posted on 11/01/2007 5:11:38 AM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: StatenIsland

Funny thing is, those anti military films...bomb, no one pays to see that crapola, yet like the dinosaur media, they keep on losing money hand over fist, like a bucket with a hole at the bottom and they (Hollyweird) doesn’t seem to care that they are losing their shareholders money.

It’s the only business that I know of that losses are not only encouraged, but subsidized, that film released last month lost to a re-release of “The Nightmare Before Christmas” and “Nightmare” opened on far fewer screens!


7 posted on 11/01/2007 5:11:55 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ No more miller brewing products, pass it on/Isaiah 3.3)
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To: StatenIsland

There is currently a 3 million dollar movie, made by unknows and with a pro life message getting very good review and attendance the movie called Bella.
Mel Gibson on his own and with his own money put together a blockbuster that according to Hollywood would bomb, it did not and the Passion of the Christ made him much richer.
Movies can be made minus Hollywood.


8 posted on 11/01/2007 5:12:34 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: 2banana
Even superstar Bruce Willis has tried to get a film made about the famed "Deuce Four" battalion serving in Iraq - but has gotten nowhere with the studios.

You're right. If Willis wants to make this movie, he should be able to do it on his own, like Mel Gibson did.

9 posted on 11/01/2007 5:13:20 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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When this turkey tanks, it will be obvious to everyone that anti-war movies are box office poison.

Even if it weren't anti-war, I know I'm tired of Redford and Streep's condescending and cookie-cutter acting. And Cruise is just a freaking nutcase.

You'd have to give me the DVD for free on a day that I was bedridden sick and bored silly to get me to watch any movie with these three clowns, much less an anti-war propaganda flick.
10 posted on 11/01/2007 5:14:53 AM PDT by chrisser
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To: I_Like_Spam

They managed to do it, Joe was right.
The second area they managed to take over is our educational system (public)


11 posted on 11/01/2007 5:15:06 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: StatenIsland
I think Hollywood has been basically pro-communist for a long time. Even the supposedly pro-American Casablanca has the protagonist praise the communists of the Spanish civil war.

“Even the relatively tame “The Kingdom” concludes with a coda that draws a moral equivalency between American CIA agents and Saudi terrorists.”

It’s only moral equivalency if you are a pacifist i.e all violent actions are equally wrong.

12 posted on 11/01/2007 5:15:30 AM PDT by Varda
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To: livius
Do you recommend The Kingdom?
13 posted on 11/01/2007 5:15:36 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: StatenIsland
It never ceases to amaze me that individuals, who have to know that they profit both in their personal lives, in living conditions, and in wealth, are so against the very country that possess the means for them to have all this in their lives, and the one thing they wish to do is destroy that country. Why would you want to destroy the country that gives you the means to make a very wealthy living by PRETENDING to be someone else for a couple of hours and making millions. Living in huge mansions. Having all the houses, cars, people, money, crap, that you can have. Yet if they lived in the Soviet Union style of paradise that they so seem to want, they would not have all this, because the poor peasants could not afford to come to their expensive movies. These people just bewilder me to no means.
14 posted on 11/01/2007 5:16:12 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Marxist's Dimocrat Party: Party for and by terrorists, Marxists, Socialists and Homos.)
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To: StatenIsland

Of course, these movies will make millions in sales overseas and in Muslim countries where they’ll be cited as proof of American atrocities.


15 posted on 11/01/2007 5:18:37 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: StatenIsland
This will not do one thing.

Most people here will continue to support these anti American rants with their dollars by going to see other movies at the box office.
Those movies pay for these ones.

Think of it all as one big pool of money - which it is - that the hollywood left pulls on to cover the loses inherent in these movies.

They are doing their best to advance the cause of Socialism and Communism and all who pay to see any movies whatsoever are supporting them in the finest Stalinist tradition.- we will hang capitalism. where will we get the rope? they will sell it to us.

16 posted on 11/01/2007 5:19:19 AM PDT by bill1952 ("all that we do is done with an eye towards something else." - Aristotle)
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To: StatenIsland

Don’t spend your money on these anti-USA films. Let Follywood eat some big losses on these projects featuring geriatric liberals.


17 posted on 11/01/2007 5:20:49 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: StatenIsland
Talented filmmakers like Cyrus Nowrasteh (ABC's "The Path to 9/11"), Emmy Award-winning screenwriter Robert Avrech ("Body Double"), novelist and screenwriter Andrew Klavan (Clint Eastwood's "True Crime") and actor Robert Davi ("Profiler") have all tried to get pro-war projects made these past three years, and have all been turned down by the Hollywood system. Even superstar Bruce Willis has tried to get a film made about the famed "Deuce Four" battalion serving in Iraq - but has gotten nowhere with the studios.

Maybe it's time to form a new studio (or go the indie route). There's no reason to cede total control of American cinema to the hands of a few ideological-straitjacketed people.

18 posted on 11/01/2007 5:22:19 AM PDT by kevkrom (The religion of global warming: "There is no goddess but Gaia and Al Gore is her profit.")
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To: Global2010

“I am escaping the world...Watching old flicks from the 1930’s...Try it you might like it.”

LOL, I do it ALL the time. It’s most of what I watch on TV. BTW, I’m 56, so most of the 30,40’s flix are a revelation to me.


19 posted on 11/01/2007 5:24:30 AM PDT by StatenIsland
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To: kittymyrib

I’m glad I saw “The Kingdom” because I thought it was a profoundly pro-American and anti-Jihadist film. So in general yes I agree with you but I think conservatives should support good films or they’ll cease to be made.


20 posted on 11/01/2007 5:26:27 AM PDT by Varda
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To: Global2010
I am escaping the world...
Watching old flicks from the 1930’s..

I'm watching the real war with no media filter.

It's a much more positive and uplifting version than what Hollywood puts out.

21 posted on 11/01/2007 5:26:49 AM PDT by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: StatenIsland

These new war movies will be bigger bombs that the ones dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.


22 posted on 11/01/2007 5:28:07 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Staying home or voting 3rd Party, Elects Hillary!)
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To: I_Like_Spam
That was why the communists sought to take over Hollywood back in the late 40s/early 50s.

It took 'em a while, but they have succeeded.

23 posted on 11/01/2007 5:30:33 AM PDT by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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To: StatenIsland
The author:

Maybe we should have a Rule associated with postings by her!

24 posted on 11/01/2007 5:32:04 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: StatenIsland
...three years' worth of anti-war films.

Truth be told, they are not anti war, only anti America at war.

25 posted on 11/01/2007 5:32:37 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: Global2010
I watch old movies on TCM almost exclusively, although occasionally they show something from the 60's or 70's, like Dr Zhivago this week.
26 posted on 11/01/2007 5:37:09 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Global2010
I am escaping the world... Watching old flicks from the 1930’s...

Where do you find them?

27 posted on 11/01/2007 5:40:15 AM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: StatenIsland; DollyCali
Even superstar Bruce Willis has tried to get a film made about the famed "Deuce Four" battalion serving in Iraq - but has gotten nowhere with the studios.

I would love to see a movie like that. It would be a guaranteed hit.

28 posted on 11/01/2007 5:41:47 AM PDT by silent_jonny ("be wise in what is good, and simple concerning evil" -- Romans 16:19)
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To: StatenIsland
Anti-war movies hurt America - and debase the art of film

Ummm . . . . sorry Govindini, but Hollyweird films haven't qualified as "art" for decades!! Ever since they got away from telling stories and substituted story lines with explosions and terrorist acts of violence.

29 posted on 11/01/2007 5:49:56 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Global2010
Try it you might like it.

I have and I do. I also range (generally) up through the 60s. After that, I start to get VERY selective about what I watch and by the time we get to contemporary films, I generally limit my selection to family or kids films (like Harry Potter) and some of the recent animated features.

Most Hollyweird films today are little more than garbage with a little air freshener applied to keep the smell from preventing you from buying the ticket, but it isn't strong enough to keep you from walking out after the film begins.

30 posted on 11/01/2007 5:55:07 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: RetiredArmy

I have no doubt that we are now reaping the bitter harvest sown in the sixties; so to a certain extent, the Communists have not yet lost the cold war. In fact, they may yet prove victorious, with Hillary being proof of that.

Remember, the baby-boomer generation started at about the same time as the cold war, and spawned the anti-establishment (read that as anti-American) hippie movement. They have now infiltrated three enormously important aspects of American life:

1) an entire major political party;
2) academia;
3) Hollywood.

With those three institutions buried so deep in their pockets, is it any wonder that we, here at FR, sometimes feel like our heads are going to explode at the illogic of it all? Well, as Francisco D’Anconia so aptly stated: “Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong”.

So understand that there is no contradiction; they DO NOT want this country to exist as it’s founders did. They DO NOT want the free and independent exchange of ideas. They hate capitalism and free markets. In short, while we fight desperately for America to remain what it was, they fight to commit national suicide. And because the young are taught it in the schools, are indoctrinated by the silver screen and given legitimacy by a major political party - they are insuring their movement for the foreseeable future.

It is death by a thousands cuts, a/k/a “creeping incrementalism.” Slowly and inexorably, the political spectrum in the United States shifts left. Republicans are labeled Conservatives, Conservatives are labeled extremists. The moderately religious are merely tolerated; the devout, mocked and shunned.

The concept of “separation of church and state” has taken on a new and distorted meaning, never expressed or implied by the founders, who knew the importance of keeping a strong religious faith woven into the fabric of our society. It has now been twisted into a battle-cry for atheism.

I don’t know that we can recover from this; I pray we can. We can’t count on little help from the younger generations, as prone as they are to peer pressure and brainwashing from Hollywood and academia.

But perhaps we can, if we all do our part.


31 posted on 11/01/2007 5:58:45 AM PDT by StatenIsland
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Having all the houses, cars, people, money, crap, that you can have. Yet if they lived in the Soviet Union style of paradise that they so seem to want, they would not have all this, because the poor peasants could not afford to come to their expensive movies. These people just bewilder me to no means.

Great point.

I've always thought of a medical analogy, when considering this subject. Why would anyone openly invite a cancer into their body? The PC crowd has everyone convinced that diversity is a good thing however, and that just as food, water, and exercise are good things, you should also celebrate (and invite) deadly diseases in as well.

32 posted on 11/01/2007 6:01:49 AM PDT by Lou L
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To: Steely Tom

Look on TCM or FMC on cable or sat for old flix.


33 posted on 11/01/2007 6:09:23 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: gridlock
"I am really looking forward to seeing the opening number for Lions for Lambs. This thing is getting heavy promotion, and has Streep/Cruise/Redford. When this turkey tanks, it will be obvious to everyone that anti-war movies are box office poison." Tom Cruise is enough of a reason NOT to see it. The guy is a true psychopath.

It's anti-war leftist moonbat theme will ensure that I won't even rent it, even if free.

34 posted on 11/01/2007 6:09:48 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

I think Tom Cruise’s day as a Box Office draw are over. Now people just slow down to look at him, like a bad accident on the highway.


35 posted on 11/01/2007 6:14:02 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: I_Like_Spam
"The propaganda war can be as important as the shooting war.
That was why the communists sought to take over Hollywood back in the late 40s/early 50s.

Well they got it now! But these are greedy communists, they can only pat themselves on the back and award themselves Emy's for garbage for so long. Eventually they'll need more money.

36 posted on 11/01/2007 6:17:52 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: StatenIsland

It’s the Fall of the Hollywood Traitor movies.


37 posted on 11/01/2007 6:21:12 AM PDT by DGHoodini (" I'm singin these words 'cause they fit in well with the notes i'm playin...")
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To: StatenIsland

I do it all the time too - vintage cartoons, old movies.


38 posted on 11/01/2007 6:23:47 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: gridlock
Thankfully, these movie makers are punishing themselves. After the tenth anti-war film in a row bombs at the box-office, maybe they will get the message.

Sadly, I don't think so. The people who make these types of films believe their message is a valid one, they are so delusional. They feel it is their duty to put out anti American propaganda and will do so until they die---as long as they break even. And they always do, due in large part to marketing their "stories" abroad.

39 posted on 11/01/2007 6:32:17 AM PDT by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must not be Dismayed)
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To: gridlock
Aparently Tom Cruise gave another "exclusive interview" To ET or one of those shows. I haven't seen it, but for a clip where he is reminiscing of his rise to stardom, and how he used to park outside of other Hollywierdo stars houses all night talking to himself saying "I'm here".

The guy is truly bent. He should avoid media interviews like the plague. He'll get himself committed, LoL!

40 posted on 11/01/2007 6:40:38 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: gridlock
I am really looking forward to seeing the opening number for Lions for Lambs. This thing is getting heavy promotion, and has Streep/Cruise/Redford. When this turkey tanks, it will be obvious to everyone that anti-war movies are box office poison.

It won't matter if it loses money. They'll reward themselves with an Oscar or two and throw around words like 'courage' and 'bravery' for having the guts to stand up to the evil Republican Administration...

Conservative themed movies always seem to sell, but they refuse to make them in Hollywood. Obviously money isn't their prime motivation....

41 posted on 11/01/2007 6:42:25 AM PDT by skikvt (Blah Blah Blah.)
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To: silent_jonny

thanks for ping.. good thread, will come back to chew on it a bit when I get time..


42 posted on 11/01/2007 7:53:13 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: 2banana
"Even superstar Bruce Willis has tried to get a film made about the famed "Deuce Four" battalion serving in Iraq - but has gotten nowhere with the studios.

Mel Gibson, when he tried to make "The Passion" had the same story. Then he put up his OWN money and made the 4th biggest blockbuster movie of all time..."

COME ON BRUCE - IF YOU MAKE IT...WE WILL COME!"

55'ers RULE!

43 posted on 11/01/2007 8:03:20 AM PDT by NordP (Such tough choices ahead, I'm now a "middle of the road" voter--somewhere between RUSH & Savage ;-))
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To: JimRed
"anti-America"

A very good point. If there was no Iraq war going on, the studios would still be cranking out anti-American films like "American Beauty". Not only do modern filmmakers not make pro-war movies, they also do not make pro-American movies. The overriding urge of modern moviemakers is to smear their own country as racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, you name it. They think of the average American in the worst possible terms. Modern libs don't just hate the war, they hate America too. In all it's respects.

44 posted on 11/01/2007 8:04:48 AM PDT by driftless2
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Even superstar Bruce Willis has tried to get a film made about the
famed "Deuce Four" battalion serving in Iraq - but has gotten nowhere
with the studios.


A well-made movie on that topic could cover a lot of ground:
crime, corruption, trying to figure out who to trust, hanging tough
on patrol when it's 120 deg. F.

Would make a h-ll of a movie.
No wonder Hollyweird is trying to abort such a film.
45 posted on 11/01/2007 8:12:55 AM PDT by VOA
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To: StatenIsland

Just in case folks are unfamiliar with the lady that wrote the article,
see link below.

I was lucky to attend the Liberty Film Festival that she and
Jason Arpuzzo (sp?) hosted in Hollywood a few years ago.

http://www.libertyfilmfestival.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&Itemid=30


46 posted on 11/01/2007 8:17:58 AM PDT by VOA
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To: StatenIsland
Ridiculous article. Some of the greatest films of the early 20th century were anti-war films. Birth of a Nation, All Quiet on the Western Front, even later classics like Bridge on the River Kwai had anti-war themes.

To suggest that anti-war films are a recent Hollywood invention makes sense only to those who have no knowledge of film history.
47 posted on 11/01/2007 8:57:02 AM PDT by UncleDick (Ron Paul '08)
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To: Varda

Commies in Hollywood supported to WWII war effort, because Hitler invaded their beloved Soviet Union.


48 posted on 11/01/2007 9:00:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: UncleDick

These recent films are not anti-war films, but anti-American films, big difference.


49 posted on 11/01/2007 9:00:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Steely Tom

TCM.

Watched a old one last night and was atonished at seeing statues of Saints in the living quarters of a wheelchair bound man.

He had cool rims for such an old WC.

The scripts are great and pertinant to daily living.

They don’t come close to writing movies anymore.

I watched the old movie “the window” (not sure on the title) and it was so different from when Chris Reeves did the remake from his WC.


50 posted on 11/01/2007 11:16:54 AM PDT by Global2010
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