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1 posted on 10/30/2007 5:17:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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2 posted on 10/30/2007 5:20:54 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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I fear for our nation’s survival....this article expertly touches on a piece of where we have gone astray!


3 posted on 10/30/2007 5:27:05 PM PDT by PISANO
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Instead of constantly looking for Big Brother to bail us out of every single problem, we need not only more self-reliance, but also a strong local social fabric that relies on faith-based initiatives and private sources. They worked with far better efficiency than anything in history, especially since LBJ’s “Great Society.” Since 1965, we’ve spent $5 trillion to battle poverty, only to have more of it than ever. This is only one example of what “democracy” has given us.
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Mob rule (”democracy”) has gone malignant since LBJ.


4 posted on 10/30/2007 5:30:23 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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In 1913, that all changed when the election of Senators was taken away from the states and handed over to the people. That year also marked the beginning of the modern age of lobbyists. And corruption.

All well said, however, though I'm not a historian, wasn't part of the appeal of the 17th a different corruption?

Having worked at times (as a private citizen) "with" our state legislature on bills stemming from loss of federal monies if certain laws aren't adopted, I'm quite unhappy with this kind of manipulation.

Particularly when analysis sometimes shows the cost of implementation to be greater than the monies lost by refusal, but rarely do they figure that out for themselves -- though to be sure, in the pile-on file-it-and-vote-it-now free-for-all that passes for "in session" in this state, few of them have the time to think anything through.

So sometimes I do it for them.

5 posted on 10/30/2007 5:33:22 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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Instead of our idiotic fixation on “democracy,” what we need is much more emphasis on liberty, on respect for the individual and his ability to create and spread prosperity; the need to foster and promote the concept that government is the cause of more problems than it solves. That most government social programs have been dismal failures which create an ever-greater number of dependents upon the government and its largesse.


Liberty Liberty Liberty!


7 posted on 10/30/2007 5:39:41 PM PDT by mad puppy (I'd rather live a day on my feet than a year on my knees)
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So if the state legistlature appointed Senators, would that prevent someone like Ted Kennedy from being in office for all of the last 45 years?

Hmmmm. Maybe we should repeal that sucker.


8 posted on 10/30/2007 5:46:58 PM PDT by mad puppy (I'd rather live a day on my feet than a year on my knees)
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What we were given was better: a representative republic.

A school teacher was teaching her middle school classes about our Democracy until I asked her to recite the Pledge of Allegiance.She got to ..."and to the Republic for which it stands..." Then the light went on, at least for a while.

11 posted on 10/30/2007 7:13:25 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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save for later


12 posted on 10/31/2007 7:22:46 AM PDT by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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constitutional republic
13 posted on 11/05/2007 9:25:08 PM PST by Coleus (Pro Deo et Patria)
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