[ari-freedom]

The French have some of the best engineers in the world but because they regulate and subsidize industry so heavily, they end up completing a lot of projects that would not survive a rational cost/benefit analysis
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hmm you make it sound as if we don’t. Boeing gets a lot of $ from the govt

[businessprofessor]

Please identify the direct subsidies that Boeing receives from the federal government for development of commercial airplanes. Boeing is a large defense contractor although Boeing must compete and deliver on these contracts. Boeing negotiated with Washington state to receive reasonable tax treatment and infrastructure. Boeing could have moved production and received better deals elsewhere.

Boeing is a publicly traded commercial company without direct government subsidies to build airplanes. Airbus receives huge direct subsidies to build and develop airplanes.

[pepperdog]

I think you are mistaken or misinformed about the government work done by Boeing. It is true Boeing has government contracts, competitively won by the way, but these are for engineering work and products to be delivered to the military, not subsidizing the development of a commercial aircraft as is the case with the French consortium.

[norton]

"Boeing gets a lot of $ from the govt"

Boeing sells a lot of planes to the government, maintains a lot of planes for the government, does research for the government, and carries out a lot of associated projects...for the government.

They also sell commercial aircraft and modify some for the government.

Our AC industry is so heavily audited and mistrusted that the idea of subsidizing Boeing commercial is absurd...it is the EU's favorite fever dream. The only way to make the case is to look at the stupid manager tricks most recently pulled by a CEO and an AF director. They got caught at a personnel level while Boeing & USAF are made to pay on an entirely different one: because somebody's daughter got a job, then the former director also got a job, the C17 - which will serve front line for decades to come - exists in production line limbo (which costs more).