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To: WesternCulture

Although I know very little about aviation, I feel confident that the A380 will be considered a success in the end and although I’ aware there are some people here who don’t care much for the French, I think it’s safe to say that France evidently has a lot of competent engineers.


2 posted on 10/30/2007 6:13:54 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

The French have some of the best engineers in the world but because they regulate and subsidize industry so heavily, they end up completing a lot of projects that would not survive a rational cost/benefit analysis. The Concorde is a classic example- a magnificent aircraft that had no hope of paying for itself. As for the A380, the jury is still out IMO.


4 posted on 10/30/2007 6:18:21 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: WesternCulture

“Airbus parent company EADS has announced a new break-even point for its troubled A380 programme - 420 aircraft as opposed to the previous 270, the BBC reports. Current orders for the A380 stand at 159”


6 posted on 10/30/2007 6:21:56 AM PDT by Soliton (Freddie T is the one for me! (c))
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To: WesternCulture

The discovery channel had an interesting series of shows about making of the A380, and it looked like a hectic build. One can’t help but admire a great achievement. Hopefully for them it will be a financial success as well.


9 posted on 10/30/2007 6:23:35 AM PDT by period end of story (I have a bird that whistles, and I have birds that sing.)
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To: WesternCulture

I don’t think there’s a whole lot of doubt about the aircraft itself any more than regular uncertainty of any new airframe that needs time in the saddle to be proven. Airbus has competently built lots of airplanes, and this one will likely fly just fine too.

The question about the 380 is a strategic one. Airbus has gambled their future on the economic success of this plane, and they’ll need to sell a whole lot more of them if the company is to remain a going concern. With or without government subsidies if they don’t sell, they don’t sell.

The criticism of airbus’s decision to build this plane is more about whether there is a big enough market for them at this point in time, or not. Only time will tell.

My hunch is that Boeing’s decision to not pursue that market but to go after the more modest size routes with the 787. Boeing’s already sold enough planes to pay for the project and that’s without delivering a single one yet.


11 posted on 10/30/2007 6:23:45 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: WesternCulture

It is an engineering success, no doubt. Whether it is a business success remains to be seen. Of course, given the various subsidies available to Airbus, it will be difficult to determine exactly what a business success would be.


13 posted on 10/30/2007 6:24:05 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: WesternCulture
I very much doubt that it will be a commercial success for Airbus. It likely will be a big success for the users in the few niches of the market where it has an advantage.

Much like the Concorde, it comes down to what your definition of success is. Boeing was very wise to pass on building an SST, and I think they have been equally wise on take a pass on the super jumbo concept.

15 posted on 10/30/2007 6:31:51 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: WesternCulture
There is really no breaking technology in the A380. Do the French have good engineers? sure they do but what are the breakthroughs in technology that the French have done in the last 60 years? I do not think that they have done any. Many nations have “good engineers” although only very few nation are doing breakthroughs in engieering and technology, the US is by far the leader on this issue.
22 posted on 10/30/2007 6:37:56 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: WesternCulture

I think in the end, the A380 will be a success because now that Airbus has overcome its biggest problem—the wiring system—deliveries will start picking up over the next two years. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised that Airbus delivers 6-8 A380’s to Singapore Airlines by summer 2008 and are able to move forward delivery dates for Qantas and Emirates Airways during 2008.


24 posted on 10/30/2007 6:40:27 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: Paleo Conservative

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97 posted on 10/30/2007 3:05:45 PM PDT by raygun ("I know its none of of my businesst, but" should immediately be punctuated with a period..)
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To: WesternCulture

Airbus is not only French.


130 posted on 10/31/2007 2:42:59 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: WesternCulture

“I think it’s safe to say that France evidently has a lot of competent engineers.”

Well, good for you Westernculture. You just get your biddy on that plance and fly, fly, away. Oh, btw, have you by chance ever heard of a plane of the name “Comet”? Check it out...


136 posted on 10/31/2007 5:24:54 AM PDT by snoringbear (')
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