Posted on 10/25/2007 3:32:25 AM PDT by americanflyer1234
The bosses of New York's five Mafia families in the mid-1980s came a hair-trigger away from sanctioning a hit on then-federal prosecutor Rudy Giuliani, according to bombshell FBI records made public today.
Before cooler heads prevailed - the mob bosses decided by a razor-thin 3-to-2 margin not to try to whack the future mayor and presidential candidate - at least two of the dons argued fervently that the mob-busting U.S. attorney should sleep with the fishes.
Bonanno boss Philip “Rusty" Rastelli, Genovese chief Vincent “The Chin" Gigante and Lucchese honcho Anthony “Tony Ducks" Corallo all cast votes to spare the headline-grabbing prosecutor, the documents show.
But the young guns of the bunch, Gambino boss John “The Teflon Don" Gotti and Colombo chief Carmine “The Snake" Persico, were said to lobby in favor of the murder. .
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I had a bumpersticker that said “Gotti ‘96” during that election year!
1. He hated the IRS
2. Was good at war
3. Liked guns
I remember when Rudy first became Mayor of New York. The first thing he did was clean the mob out of the Fulton Fish Market. The Fulton Fish Market had been a Mob run operation for generations, and everybody accepted that as colorful local lore, until Giuliani came along. He closed the market and re-bid all the contracts, and the Mob is still out of the business. Of course, the Fish Market has been moved to the Bronx, as well.
If I knew Rudy would do the same thing to the Government of New Jersey, he would have my vote and the votes of my ten closest dead relatives!
Hard to see why Gotti would have needed anyone else’s vote to do that. But irrespective, Giuliani had a lot of guts to take on the mob.
The thing that people may not remember is that Rudy grew up in Brooklyn, down on Water Street. He grew up with a lot of the wiseguys but took a different path.
Not scared to take on the mob, but terrified to take on the pro-abortion and gay rights groups.
Gee golly whillikers, I thought it was only the Boston FBI that was dirty...
Word that “The Snake” Persico went ahead on his own despite the vote surfaced in 2004, when the architect of a failed assassination attempt on Giuliani, Joel “Joe Waverly” Cacace, took a plea in exchange for a 20-year sentence.
Wonder why we are hearing this story now?
Rooty is tough on crime.
So what?
Why even a defrocked pedophile priest will be defended by Rudy!
Hell he will even give him a job.
Rudy is evil.
We’ve had “pro-life” Presidents like Nixon who gave us liberal Justice Blackmun, Reagan who gave us Sandra Day O’Conner, and George HW Bush, who gave us ultra liberal Souter. Even GWB tried to give us the pro-choice Harriet Myers on the Court.
I would prefer a strong leader like Giuliani who has promised more appointments like Scalia, Roberts, and Alito.
Worst case scenario: Hillary wins and we get a liberal Democrat House , Senate, President and Supreme Court. I think that might persuade a few people to get out and vote.
Hitler is Evil. Stalin is Evil.
Rudy is someone you don’t like.
I didn’t like Rudy yesterday.
After I read the story of the pedophile working for him, I hated Rudy.
I would so hate it if my hubbys nickname was “the grim reaper”. Imagine telling the kids that or your Mom and Dad. “Say Mom and DAd, meet my boyfriend ‘the grim reaper’”.
THere is a mighty low threshhold for “evil” on some quarters on FR.
Now the Dems have a mighty high threshhold for evil.
Surely there is a middle ground.
We need for adjectives like unlikeable, wishwashy, sketchy,different, etc.
Evil is overused.
Naah, I wouldn’t call him evil. He is just very misguided on important issues of conscience.
Problem is, you can’t trust RINOs to keep their word to Conservatives. They use us to get into office and quickly discard us. We’re to them what Black folks are to Democrats, except we at least have the sense to say “no” to them when we have the chance. I’d expect Rudy’s appointments to be like Jerry Ford’s, and you know who Ford appoint to the bench... the senile leftist John Paul Stevens, a cancer that still infests the Supreme Court today.
That experience will come in handy as he takes on Hillary in the general election.
One of the big rules of the mafia families is to never “hit” a federal agent, prosecutor, or judge. They knew that if they ever did so, the the gig was up, with the U.S. government coming down upon them with all the force that it could muster. The mobsters knew this and so did the feds. It was part of the game.
Rudy sure fits a democrats profile!
IT is for the murder of unborn babies!
IT is a big gun control nut!
IT covered for the invaders in ITS city!
IT surrounds ITself with queers and thugs!
Why does IT have an R by ITS name instead of a D?
Well, we can avoid voting in November 2008 for Giuliani and pray that Hillary starts appointing pro-life Judges. .lol
They have no morals and as such they are just live clumps of tissue.
Either way, you have the same chance of that happening. A pro-abort President isn’t going to support people of opposite mindset. It just doesn’t happen.
Hardly a “bombshell”, at least to anyone remotely familiar with New York City and Giuliani’s tenure as prosecutor. It would be much more surprising to learn that the mob bosses had NOT seriously considered trying to have him taken out.
that didn’t stop the pittsburgh mob from trying to take out a prosecutor in youngstown, ohio. the guy was shot and barely survived. but the end result was, the feds came crashin down on that party and the head of the pittsburgh mob got sent away for a long time..
A key enabler of pedophile priests — Cardinal Law — got a job at the Vatican and participated in the ritual installing the current Pope.
Richard M. Nixon (R) 1969-1974 — Nixon declared birth control a national priority, seeking “adequate family planning services [for] … all those who want them but cannot afford them.” President Nixon signed Title X into law, which made contraceptives available regardless of income. Nixon also nominated U.S. Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun, who wrote the 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion nationwide. The decision was handed down a few weeks after Nixon was sworn in as president for a second term. In 1974 Nixon resigned from office as a result of the Watergate scandal.
had pissed off Tony Soprano?
Tony would have had sex with Judy.
On first reading of the heading, I thought this was a ‘help wanted’ piece, then realized it was a ‘historical’ reference, LOL! :-)
I don’t want to vote for Rudy, but not THAT bad, giggle. ;-)
So, you believe Rudy is telling the truth when he says he will appoint those kinds of judges? In other words, you don’t believe Rudy is lying like most politicians do to get elected? Why is Rudy more believable than any other politician?
Some people believe what politicians say even when their record says otherwise. Rudy’s record of appointing judges in NY is nothing like what he says he will do if he becomes president.
Are you really that gullible?
He is for low taxes.
He is for strong defense.
He is for winning the war against the Islamists.
He is for Constitutionalists judges.
He is for id cards for all immigrants who enter the US.
He loves America as it is.
He worked for Reagan.
He fits some of the Dem profile but not all. Rudy is what he is. He is not as conservative as Fred or even McCain but he is more honest than Mitt or Huckabee, at least as far as defending his positions. He never called those against illegal immigration racist (Huckabee) and he defended his pro-choice positions, he didn't just have a conversion come election time.
Agree...and, IMO, so is 'hero.'
Rudy did an incredible job on the Mob and cleaning up NY. Gotta give him his due.
Pray for W and Our Troops
Reminds me very much of a campaigning promise that started out with, "Read my lips......". Rudy will appoint judges that are confimable as determined by his advisers. They will all be RINOS! He is not going to fight for any confirmations through the dim controlled judiciary/Congress. He will want a 2nd term and will figure squishy appointments will aid him in that goal.
There's only one problem with this -- Giuliani has promised an awful lot, but actions speak louder than words.
Do you really expect a man who has broken his marriage vows before God and the community multiple times in the most public and egregious way, to keep a mere campaign promise?
I think it was Harry Truman who said that a man who will cheat on his wife will cheat anyone.
Quite a different situation from the others you cite, who appear by and large to have made honest mistakes. Particularly G.H.W. Bush, who received personal assurances from Sununu, who was supposed to know Souter well, that he was a reliable conservative.
“He is for low taxes.” He fights against tax cuts unless it is for his buddies.
“He is for strong defense.” He is for a police state where only police, criminals and hired thugs have weapons.
“He is for winning the war against the Islamists.” So is every person running to be the Republican Nominee except Paul.
“He is for Constitutionalists judges.” Look who he has appointed.
“He is for id cards for all immigrants who enter the US.” He fought for the criminals who overstay their visas and those who just INVADE our country.
“He loves America as it is.” So you think he will not be for the NAU, I love America for what it could be if Duncan Hunter is the Republican Nominee.
“He worked for Reagan.” President Reagan was the best in my lifetime but he did make several bad mistakes.
“He fits some (Most) of the Dem profile but not all. Rudy is what he is. He is not as conservative as Fred or even McCain but he is more honest than Mitt or Huckabee, at least as far as defending his positions. He never called those against illegal immigration (INVADERS} racist (Huckabee) and he defended his pro-choice positions, he didn’t just have a conversion come election time.”
His favorite AG was Robert Kennedy who was very tough on mobsters but they had to be enemies of his bootlegging father mobsters friends.
I would prefer a strong leader like Giuliani who has promised more appointments like Scalia, Roberts, and Alito.
Worst case scenario: Hillary wins and we get a liberal Democrat House , Senate, President and Supreme Court. I think that might persuade a few people to get out and vote.
"Richard M. Nixon (R) 1969-1974 — Nixon declared birth control a national priority, seeking “adequate family planning services [for] … all those who want them but cannot afford them.” President Nixon signed Title X into law, which made contraceptives available regardless of income."
Hey noob, that sounds remarkably like Juliette's term as Mayor of New York.
Also GHWB appointed Justice Clarence Thomas, without whom the ban on partial-birth abortion would not have had a snowball's chance (nor the correct decision in Bush v. Gore).
Particularly G.H.W. Bush, who received personal assurances from Sununu, who was supposed to know Souter well, that he was a reliable conservative.
Souter was strongly recommended by Senator Warren Rudman , who had helped Bush win the New Hampshire primary.
Rudman knew that Souter was a liberal and is still quite proud of the way he “fooled” George H. Bush.
Bush , like Nixon, were not really focused on who they nominated, just as long as it was politically expedient. Thank goodness we didn’t let GWB put Harriet Myers on the Supreme Court.
It is what should be referred to as a “Jesse Jackson Republican”. That is the exact opposite of a “Reagan Democrat”
Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
Yeah, Rudy did take a different path and NY is better for it.
No one can take away Rudy’s crime fighting credentials. They are solid. The man really turned NYC around.
But I won’t give him a vote for President. He would make an excellent AG however.
‘Hard to see why Gotti would have needed anyone else’s vote to do that.’
Not if you know how LEO’s react when one of their own is killed, let alone a DA.
Every illegal activity is brought to a standstill, every single person with a pending case has a great opportunity to buy their way out of it with information.
So organized crime doesn’t do such things ‘lightly’. Consider the Godfather movie, and the result of assasinating a dirty police Captain.
Thats very close to reality in its portrayal of what the reaction is to such a thing.
Its ‘bad for business’ across the board.
I have no qualm with anyone who opposes Giuliani strongly in the Republican primary. But when they say they would prefer Hillary Clinton to Rudy, then something is wrong.
When I read your post, it reminded me of what is happening in my area. I live in a dry county, but liquor is available. The local Sheriff’s office has raids on the bootleggers every so often, usually before the elections. The arrest help calm the local sheep and make the Sheriff look like he is doing a good job.
It is rumored the Sheriff calls the bootleggers in and they choose who will be arrested. :0)
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