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My take is that the Rice-Powell wing of the Administration is now pre-dominant, pushing for diplomacy with NK, Iran and pressuring Isreal to cave in to Pali demands.

It took evidence of a nuclear device to move Bush to allow the Isreali action against Syria but is downplaying it publicly to keep a fig-leaf on NK agreements.

We are living in very dangerous times.

1 posted on 10/23/2007 5:08:05 AM PDT by AU72
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It took evidence of a nuclear device to move Bush to allow the Isreali action against Syria...

It is way past time to unleash the Israelis.

They seem to be the only ones who actually take any of this seriously.

2 posted on 10/23/2007 5:15:52 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit ("A liberal feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.")
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To: AU72
Yes we are indeed living in very dangerous times and it is unfortunate that the majority of Americans, especially, don't have a clue.

As far as I am concerned we have been in WWIII since 911. Only problem is "we" can't accept it - from the leadership down.

Have fun at the Mall today! /sarc

3 posted on 10/23/2007 5:17:04 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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“Yet the suggestion that North Korean personnel might not have been involved in the ongoing construction of the reactor contradicts a New York Times story of October 9, just a few days before, which said that within the administration “there appears to be little debate that North Koreans frequently visited a site in the Syrian Desert that Israeli jets attacked Sept. 6.” The story on October 9 was that the North Koreans were surely present at the Syrian installation, but that the nuclear nature of the site was less certain.”

Is it possible North Koreans were killed during this strike?


4 posted on 10/23/2007 5:20:34 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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Look: This is all our fault. Just get clear on that. WE are to blame.

If we were nice and had signed Kyoto and if we gave all our SUVs to third-world countries where they could be used as goat hutches, if we abandoned our military and political commitments around the world, if we gave gift cards to Fort Knox to every tin-pot Stalinist dictator around the world, if we found a way to combine the perverted sexual libertinism of the left, the NOW moral standard of "Does an ugly woman take offense?", with submission to Islam -- if we would only do all these things, then Syria would love us and the world would be filled with friends who truly wanted only what is best for us. We could lay down our arms and live in peace with all.

And I am the Queen of Romania.

5 posted on 10/23/2007 5:21:02 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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>> noting that the vast majority of foreign relations and intelligence committee members have been left in the dark on the details of the raid.

Maybe if Congress (and, while we’re on the subject, State) could keep their @#$%^&* MOUTHS SHUT, they could be brought a little more into the intelligence circle.


6 posted on 10/23/2007 5:24:18 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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I agree with the demands that every member of Congress be immediately briefed and given copies of every Top Secret document that we’ve got. That includes Shelia Jackson Lee, Dennis Kucinich and the whole rest of the looney lot. No treason within the halls of Congress, no siree. Why, they are the only ones in Washington looking out for our interests. How do I know this, you ask. Why they tell me so, and this have been confirmed by the New York Times and the Washington Post.

Who needs the Syrians, Iranians, and North Koreans when you have the Democrat Congressional Delegation


12 posted on 10/23/2007 5:32:55 AM PDT by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad cuts short visit to Armenia ("Unexpected developments in Iran")
17 posted on 10/23/2007 5:36:57 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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Syria gets UN apology
18 posted on 10/23/2007 5:40:32 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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“...thereby throwing our nuclear agreement with North Korea into question.?

Yeah, if NK can’t offshore their nuke development to a terrorist-sponsoring country, then they may not make any more agreements with us to stop developing nukes.

We’re dealing with evil.
We need glass parking lots.
Lots of em.


21 posted on 10/23/2007 6:33:13 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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I think it’s clear that Israel is not going to stand by while Iran goes nuclear. They are the real canary in the coal mine on the Iranian nuclear issue. If this is proof, we can assume that Iran does not have a weapon - YET. But watch the public declarations of Israel. They are sounding the alarm that Iran is dangerously close to reaching critical mass.

Amadinejad’s scamper back from Armenia could be directly related to this unfolding crisis.


22 posted on 10/23/2007 6:38:31 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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Why are we so convinced that the Israelis actually performed this strike, or performed it with conventional (F15) aircraft?

I have trouble believing that even IDF pilots, good as they are, could fly completely across Syria, hit the reactor, and get back home undetected.

This leaves me with two possibilities:

1. The Israelis didn’t do it at all - we did, but we gave the Israelis credit for it.

2. The Israelis have Stealth fighters that they haven’t admitted to yet.

Option 1 seems more plausible.


23 posted on 10/23/2007 6:46:13 AM PDT by Terabitten (Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets - E-Frat '94. Unity and Pride!)
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Now two key members of Congress have raised an alarm about this event, thereby throwing our nuclear agreement with North Korea into question.

We must have the most credulous, gullible and naive State Departments in the history of the world. They are continuously and genuinely surprised that oppressive, fanatical dictators happen to be dishonest too.

Do you morons really believe that N. Korea ever had any intention of keeping its word???

How completely pathetic.

26 posted on 10/23/2007 7:30:12 AM PDT by TChris (Cartels (oil, diamonds, labor) are bad. Free-market competition is good.)
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My take is that the Rice-Powell wing of the Administration is now predominant, pushing for diplomacy with NK, Iran and pressuring Israel to cave in to Pali demands.

I agree with this assessment, and I agree also that this presents us with an extremely dangerous situation.

RE: Ileana Ros-Lehtinen - I have observed her for the past several years and I think that she is one sharp lady and a tremendously under-utilized asset to this country. For example, for several reasons, I believe she would be a devastatingly effective choice as a Vice-Presidential candidate for the GOP ticket.

30 posted on 10/23/2007 8:36:32 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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There was no nuclear device in Syria. Just a reactor under construction.

The bigger news is that non-U.S. air defense systems don’t work. Israel went *deep* into Syria without a scratch.


35 posted on 10/23/2007 9:42:48 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Warhead? Several early and unconfirmed reports on the Israeli raid point to the possibility that in the days immediately before the airstrike, the North Koreans may have shipped a cache of fissile material — possibly including a nuclear warhead — to Syria.

You can’t just carry a warhead out of Syria into Turkey - you need a truck. Now I’m wondering if slam-Turkey-over-Armenia thing was a rat retaliation for Turkish assistance in 9/6.


40 posted on 10/23/2007 11:00:20 AM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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41 posted on 10/23/2007 11:20:44 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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BFL.....

The March-to-the-End-Times continues.....


56 posted on 10/24/2007 9:46:34 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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