Posted on 10/21/2007 1:21:12 AM PDT by managusta
If only Anglican priests were allowed to marry, this wouldn’t have happened.
The reality is that most child sexual abuse, except for the most heinous, was ignored prior to the late 70s and early eighties.
Or dismissed as funny. Monty Python had such a skit. The toothy vicar, preaching in the school chapel about how someone composed a prayer in the shower room and he overheard.
"O, God, Thou art big!....etc."
There were many other jokes about it also, which proves nothing except that the culture was aware something was going on all along.
The CoE is a lost cause.
Beat me to it.
When the news broke about the priests a few years ago, my mother mentioned that the neighborhood kids knew in the 40's that some of the local ministers were interested in boys (not just Catholic priests). Clearly there was a level of awareness in society.
Let’s stick the fork in; England is just about done.
“If only Anglican priests were allowed to marry, this wouldn’t have happened”
Interesting reaction. So, you’re now relieved that your gay priests are in good company? ....or just busting Anglican chops because you think that somehow rank-and-file Anglicans got some pleasure seeing Catholic gay priests get caught molesting boys - because it made them somehow better than you?
You’re a sick pup.
see post #9....you, too
Let me point out that this isn’t a Catholic or Anglican thing. This is about gays being attracted to positions of power and authority so they can leverage it for access to little boys.
Can we not agree that the problem is gays proliferating in religious institutions unchecked, and not who’s brand of religion is better?
Can we not have compassion for the boys that were molested before expressing the “Ha ha, you too!” sentiments?
I would say post two made an astute observation. One worth thinking about.
“I would say post two made an astute observation. One worth thinking about.”
I don’t. I think it is reflective of a “gotcha” mentality, that completely ignores the problem and the victims.
Other than that, I agree with you.
Interesting reaction. So, you’re now relieved that your gay priests are in good company?
I think some sarcasm was missed? Anglican priests can marry. All of mine were. Locally, over the years many types of asosrted minsters have been busted.
It seems to be more a matter of access to children than to frustration.
What it is is that society/culture beat the drum that the pedophilia/child abuse in the Catholic Church was because priests weren't allowed to be married and that caused them to abuse boys.
The reality is that child abuse/pedophilia is a sickness in one's soul - married or not.
Oh, I know victims of sexual abuse at the hands of a priest and I know the priest who did it. It is serious. I say this as a Catholic who has survived the last few years of scandal. IF we don’t look at all aspects of the problem and address the things we can we are foolish.
For my sons, who were alter boys, I wondered why the priests would want them hanging around the rectory after school until evening mass and when they pestered me and told me the other boys were doing it I said “NO WAY!” In hindsight it was a vatic decision on my part. My boys were spared.
Exactly what the posters you admonished were implying.
The bad news is that they were allowed to do it for generations, the good news is that it is coming to an end because people are aware of it and ready to fight back. I think the Boy Scouts were the first to realize the infiltration and do something about it and they were demonized by the left.
“Exactly what the posters you admonished were implying.”
If so, they ignored the problem and the victims in favor of “gotcha” parochialism. Sick.
They, more than most, having been through the wringer in a very public manner, should understand the problem and the effect on victims, and the pummeling that their faith took, all because of gays. That their first reaction was as it was is sick in my view, and perpetuates the problem.
“I think the Boy Scouts were the first to realize the infiltration and do something about it and they were demonized by the left.”
You’e absolutely correct about this. It continues to this day. The Scouts were able to do something because they acted before gays got into oversight roles - which in the case of Catholics, and I suspect Anglicans, and any other religion was what allowed it to become institutionalized.
also, knee-jerk “defend the bureaucracy” that reinforces the lack of accountability are inevitably the cause.
Whether it’s giving blood, becoming a scout leader, or a priest - gays hate being singled out as aberrant and demonize the necessary measures needed to protect against them. Society was wrong in accepting them as just another “alternative”, as we now are finding out with church scandals and similar abominations.
You obviously weren’t on the threads at the time. A whole lot of people ignored that it goes on in other organizations preferring to believe it was only the Catholic Church which had the problem.
Your problem is that you missed most of the conversation. Anyone who was there knew what the statement meant. It didn’t ignore anything.
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