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To: Borges; SirLinksalot
True. Wagner and Nietzsche were only close from 1871-1876: the only opera that Wagner did any serious work on while he knew Nietzsche was Parsifal - which Nietasche hated and which is pretty opposed to Nietzsche whole worldview.

Wagner's other great works: The Ring, Tristan, Tannhaeuser, Lohengrin, Meistersinger, etc. were almost all written and composed by 1870.

Nietzsche met Wagner briefly in 1868. He didn't begin hanging around the Wagner household until 1871 and he didn't become famous himself until 1883 - five years before he entered the laughing academy and seven years after he broke with Wagner.

I doubt Nietzsche had any effect whatever on Wagner's work.

7 posted on 10/15/2007 9:00:04 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
Schopenhauer was an influence. Ironic considering the glooomy philosopher routinely cheered himself up by playing Rossini arias on his flute.
8 posted on 10/15/2007 9:05:45 AM PDT by Borges
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To: wideawake; Borges; SirLinksalot

I think the writer was saying that this was a soft opera, not Valkyries or Odin, and no hint of superman etc. . . .


13 posted on 10/15/2007 9:37:44 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: wideawake
Meistersinger is my favorite of Wagner's. BOM bah-bohmmmm...buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh... how could such an awful human being make such lovely music?
20 posted on 10/15/2007 10:27:13 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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