John Hayes: 'Respect for Islam'
Veil fight: Muslim schoolgirl Shabina Begum
Posted on 10/15/2007 2:10:26 AM PDT by Stoat
John Hayes: 'Respect for Islam'
Veil fight: Muslim schoolgirl Shabina Begum
A priest has been interviewed by police on suspicion of inciting racial hatred for expressing his Christian views in his parish newsletter.
Father John Hayes, 71, was quizzed for more than an hour after commenting on the case of a Muslim girl who went to court over her wish to wear a full veil in class.
A sergeant and community support officer turned up without warning at his presbytery after an allegation was made to a Scotland Yard 'hate crimes' unit.
The inquisition in Hornchurch, East London, prompted a furious row about policing priorities. In the past 12 months there have been five murders, 33 rapes, 424 robberies and 2,267 burglaries in the local police borough of Havering.
Yet, despite being accused of turning a blind eye to the inflammatory remarks of some Muslim preachers of hate, the Met still found time to quiz Mr Hayes.
Last night the priest said his 'offending' remarks had concerned Shabina Begum, who, represented by Cherie Blair QC, claimed unsuccessfully that it was her human right to be allowed to wear her jilbab, a loose gown, in class.
After hearing an interview with the girl, Mr Hayes suggested in his internet bulletin to his parishioners that it was never possible to convince anyone by argument in matters of religion.
"My point was that you have to demonstrate what it means to be Christian through your actions," he said.
"Apparently someone in my congregation was unhappy with my comments and, after waiting a year, went to the police to say he had been 'disturbed' by it."
A fortnight ago officers knocked on the door of his home next to St Mary's Church, Hornchurch. They said they had been sent by a superintendent.
"They said they had come to see if I had intended to incite racial hatred," the priest said. "I was pretty surprised. It seemed to me that political correctness had gone haywire in this situation.
"They were very polite and cordial, but I did say to them that surely they had better things to be doing with their time.
"We had a long, civilised discussion and I didn't give an inch.
"They seemed satisfied and when they eventually left the sergeant told me 'that's the end of the matter'. I felt the whole thing was a bit of a storm in a teacup."
He added: "I have the greatest respect for Islam. There are so many more similarities than differences in our religions that I feel it is a great pity we concentrate on the few things that divide us."
The decision to quiz Mr Hayes has infuriated many Met officers.
A source at the Metropolitan Police Federation, which represents rank and file officers, said: "What happened is a gross error of judgment and possibly even an abuse of power.
"The senior officer who decided on this course of action should be called to account.
"It is yet another example of the political correctness which is blighting the Met. It is plain bonkers."
Mr Hayes, who became the priest at St Mary's 13 years ago, said one of his main aspirations was to bring people of different backgrounds together. On Saturday night he organised a 'One World' evening, where his congregation brought traditional cuisine from their country of origin.
He said: "You can talk about integration until you are blue in the face, but at the end of the day it's better to do this through actions - like getting people together over some food!"
May God Bless our British Friends and protect them from the Muslim hordes as well as their own Government.
went to the police to say he had been ‘disturbed’ by it.”
I’m always amazed at the power some people have.
Many things ‘disturb’ me. Many people ‘disturb’ me.
But, go to the police??
Well, of COURSE the police questioned the Christian priest but did not bother the Muslim mullahs ranting about destroying Israel and the West. The police are not stupid.
The police know there's significantly lower likelihood they'll be targeted for murder or car bombings if they just let the "religion of peace" do whatever they want.
Would the police have given similar time to a complaint by somebody who had been "disturbed" by the rantings of a Muslim cleric?
Father John Hayes.....
Many thanks for standing up for Western civilization and yourself. I see your photo I think only good things. I see the photo of the Muslim schoolgirl and it makes me sick
UK has to shuck off all these imported creeps and get back to basics
A NATION DOES IT’S OWN WORK. IT DOESN’T IMPORT IDIOTS TO DO IT FOR THEM. the genesis of Muslim immigration to the UK was too many courageous British men were killed in World War 2. So Indians were brought in which is just fine. But Muslim parasites piggy backed onto these Hindus. Even back in ‘73 when I visited London and more the bus drivers were from India. Muslim or Hindu???? were they?? |||| was not something I thought or knew much about back then
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“I was told by one police officer that he did not ‘want to start a race riot’ by arresting Pakistani men for sexual offenses”
Go after smokers with riot police and turn a blind eye to Muslim Pimps and rapists!
Go after priests for no real reason.
The Muslim clerics rant in Arabic and effin’ Urdu so no one knows when these b%$$^$^(&* insult Christians Jews or Hindus
Good luck finding a Muslim to rat out these scummy Muslim “preachers”. The militant savages will find his family and start breaking bones
> He added: “I have the greatest respect for Islam. There are so many more similarities than differences in our religions that I feel it is a great pity we concentrate on the few things that divide us.”
His first mistake. They are the Ungodly, and they worship a false God. Their doctrines are anathema to any proper practising Christian. The “few things that divide us” are sufficient to divide this Priest’s head from his shoulders if left to the tender mercies of militant Muslims.
I have no particular quarrels with Islam, but when put into a Christian context, no proper Christian could dare advocate on behalf of a religion that preaches concepts that are polar opposite to those that Our Lord preached.
Jesus would never condone Jihad. If this silly Priest does not understand that, he needs to go back to Sunday School and re-read the Beatitudes and re-read the Sermon on the Mount and re-commit himself as a practising Christian.
Political correctness is not a 'Value' or a 'Good' gone wrong. It is a devious, fraudulent cultural manipulation posing as a 'Good'.
We might be better served, if all reason-capable citizens - UK. . .U.S.A. et al. . . begin their own war against political correctness.
A 'win' for PC; is for certain; a loss for all who value an authentic progress of civilization. . .and so far, it appears that the more noble 'we' of the world; are losing.
Hate crime for speaking the truth. Ignoring calls to violence from Muslims.
Welcome to 1984.
England has been lost for years now. The are reaping the benefits of their ultra liberal policies.They are PC to the point of being a farce of a nation. They are getting just what they deserve. In now way are they allies of the US anymore. I wouldn’t depend on them. The once proud British are a nation of limp wristed fops , cowering to Islam .
I wouldn’t push the Brits too far if I were a Muslim or socialist, PC appeaser, and it appears they just did with this overly-PC incident.
So the student didn’t get to wear the sleeping bag to school, then? I see they let her keep the mustache though.
Brits sure use fortnight a lot. :)
You could write a book about the stupidity of the European governments.
This is a corner stone of facists governments, and the British are rapidly turning into facists. Anyone who embraces hate crimes is allowing this sort of thing to happen. Anyone who has a grivence against their neighbor can then run to the police and turn the neighbor in for a “hate crime”, or a crime against the state. It is already happening in Britain and here in the US. We need to put a stop to this nonsense NOW.
People think I’m joking when I say just wait until Hillary is president and a federal thought police starts hauling people away. I fear it really will happen. On top of all the other nightmares like more and more income being taken away, government telling us what we can and can’t eat, when we can go to the doctor, etc etc.
Took the words out of my mouth, but remember that picture is just around the corner here in the USA.
Young people are being indoctrinated in “diversity,” “tolerance” and “multiculturalism” at the school down the street.
They are being trained to get angry about anything that is perceived as “hate” and “intolerance.”
A Diversity Coalition has already sprouted up in my county with the ususal suspects including of all groups Planned Parenthood.
“So watch out you hate-filled, intolerant pro-lifers. We are coming to get you, too.”
The islamics couldn't pay enough for this kind of police "protection". They (the muzzies) tear up the culture, bully, intimidate, and persecute the citizenry and have the local police run interference against ensuing public outcry. The muzzies are aided and abetted by pinheads who have disarmed a complacent citizenry in the name of "progress". What a sweet way to take over an entire nation of enemy territory and prove the superiority of Arab civilization.
The crazy Arabs were bowing and praying to a god named allah and the stone cube in mecca a thousand years before muhammed came along.
Re: the related issue of Illegal Immigration.
We will soon need to make room for these folks as the UK and the rest of Europe slowly sinks into Islamic mire and they need a place of refuge.
It will no longer be possible to live free as a Dhimmi over there. We will have to boot out the Illegals in the US in order to make a place for them.
“I’m always amazed at the power some people have.” I’m with you, it’s truly amazing. It’s like someone behind the curtain sprinkled the “power” dust on chosen groups of people such that for example, THEY get to decide who is and who is not a racist, or a homophope and now, an islamaphobe. We lose the freedom of even so much as defining who we are and what we are truly about along with the freedom to speak our truth and sadly I fear, we’ll lose the right to decide to whom we will and will not speak when told that failing to “engage” a Muslim or a person of another one of the chosen, in conversation is discriminatory. For my part? I’m running for the hills!
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Say goodbye to freedom of speech. It had a pretty good run. We’re returning to an aristocratic system of government, where everything will be mandated for us by a self-appointed elite.
Their own government may be the greater threat at this poibt..
Yet another reason for a Second Amendment.
For, behold, the Lord, the LORD of hosts, doth take away ...The mighty man, and the man of war, the judge, and the prophet, and the prudent, and the ancient, The captain of fifty, and the honourable man, and the counsellor, and the cunning artificer, and the eloquent orator.And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them. And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every one by his neighbour: the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honourable. ...because their tongue and their doings are against the LORD, to provoke the eyes of his glory.
The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves. ...
As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them.
Isaiah 3
You think? Divide Christian and Jewish heads from the rest of their bodies is concentrating on a 'few things'? Please go preach at Quaker, Amish, Mennonite and other pascifist meeting places and wait for the Muslims to join you in prayer.
We didn’t take up arms when they made killing babies legal. Now what are we to do that the very reason our forefathers travelled from the old world has come to our shores.
If a priest can't stand behind the critical differences, how can the rest of us withstand the drive to compromise?
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