Posted on 10/14/2007 7:14:10 AM PDT by proudofthesouth
Everyone writing on this thread has missed it.
Granting women full suffrage started the downhill slide of our great nation which continues to this day.
“The US is the most wealthy and powerful empire the world has seen since Rome.”
You are so right, but you forgot to mention what Rome’s final outcome was and why it happened.
I personally think that the US went downhill when it decided to allow people to immigrate who had no desire to integrate. Diversity doesn’t work.
No FDR destroyed America, first with the great society then with all his concessions to Stalin. He had more reds in his administration then any other president in history. OH wait maybe not the Clintons any way. After FDR that is when the schools and other institutions started being taken by the Commies. Hollywood followed in the fifties and then all the colleges in the 60s. So no Lincoln didnt destroy america. The lefts American Idol did! PS Joe Mccarthy was a true american hero!
...and teenagers, and homeless bums (motor voter act).
Throw in FDR's Social Security and Johnson's Great Society where people were taught that you can vote for money for yourself out of other people's pockets and I think that would sum up our nation's decline.
since 1865 the USA has had the LUCK to NOT become a dictatorship, though it IS a plutocracy. FDR had the ABILITY/OPPORTUNITY to be the dictator in the 1930s. (he chose not to be.) later DIMocRAT politicians have not been as wary of seizing/using central power against the RIGHTS of citizens.
furthermore, i fear for the safety of the republic should the "hilleryBEAST" become POTUS. that will finish us, imVho, as a free nation. under a "hillery rotton klintoon" administration citizens will become SUBJECTS, imVho.
free dixie,sw
Nah. The US decline started with Wilson’s plan to grab the Empire baton from England. This put us on British glidepath to the death of a thousand wars. Growth of Washington government control to control US society was the result.
Acceptance of George Washington’s admonition against foreign entanglements is our best chance for a reversal. But since both parties are dominated by trade and war interests, more control will continue to gravitate to Washington.
Hogwash. See my #9.
By making slavery a “state right” and seceding, the South chose to damage the Republic.
I’ve always heard that LIncoln wanted to return the slaves to their country of origin. Obviously that never happened, but I have heard it said many times.
Lincoln dealt with a heck of a lot that would make other presidents cringe.
I’ve always heard that LIncoln wanted to return the slaves to their country of origin. Obviously that never happened, but I have heard it said many times.
Lincoln dealt with a heck of a lot that would make other presidents cringe.
I’ve always heard that LIncoln wanted to return the slaves to their country of origin. Obviously that never happened, but I have heard it said many times.
Lincoln dealt with a heck of a lot that would make other presidents cringe.
Sarcasm on such an important and weighty topic?
tongue firmly planted in cheek...
I can’t fault Lincoln for seeking to preserve the Union. The blame more likely can be placed on the Radical Republicans who stuck us with the 14th Amendment after Lincoln’s death. That set in motion the idea of egalitarianism and effectively repealed the 10th Amendment. I don’t think the authors and ratifiers of the 14th Amendment intended it to go as far as it has gone, but they were irresponsible in framing it so vaguely, including the citizenship clause which has been used to give citizenship to anchor babies.
bingo...absolutely. The founding fathers knew darn well that women tend to be too emotional to be given the responsibility of voting.
I don't want to disagree or agree with you, some things I believe can be kept at a local level, but other things I believe need to push to the highest level of government that is possible. When it comes to the moral absolutes, I believe that we should fight those battles from a National level. That was what I believe the Civil War was about, should the States decide the moral absolutes or the federal government. In the case of the issue of perpetual slavery, the federal government won, instead of some small states run by the money from the big plantation slave owners. Our real downfall in our nation, if there is any, is that a lot of people our pushing aside the moral issues in favor for the perceived economic gain they can get from a particular party.
I agree that allowing women to vote has had a progressively corrosive effect on the American character. Women view the world much differently than men and do not apply the same logic or rules. IMHO, many of the liberal male politicians know better, but are pandering to the female vote. On the flip side, they have also had a positive, tempering effect on some of our national policies. On the whole, however, I think it has been a net loss.
While the above is what I believe, it is impossible to make that argument in public without sounding like a neanderthal loon.
So you know where I am coming from I believe both Lincoln and FDR did what they HAD TO do to preserve the UNITED STATES of America.
“you forgot to mention what Rome’s final outcome was”
You’re right, but I didn’t forget. My glaring omission was intended as a warning.
I think America started going down hill when some freepers posted provocative posts and then weren’t around to participate in the debate!
Yeah but then we won't have had a good looking president to look at like President Clinton.
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