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To: goldstategop

Reagan said losing does not help.

This article is just surrender monkey talk.

Dump Guiliani and the party unites.


2 posted on 10/13/2007 9:46:06 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
The Republican candidates are not talking about the real issues facing this country, especially the so-called "front-runners." The value of our dollar is declining, the borders are wide open, and the entitlement programs are headed towards insolvency.
12 posted on 10/13/2007 10:03:18 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Tagline Removed By Moderator)
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To: longtermmemmory
8 years of President Hillary could cure the GOP

No it wouldn't. The GOP would be dead, strangled (as well as the country). Illegal immigrants and felons given the vote, millions made dependent on government (i.e., Democrat) largesse for their health, businesses taxed out of existence, independent opinion makers smeared or silenced, or investigated, or thrown in prison. There would be a one party state, under socialism.

20 posted on 10/13/2007 10:19:16 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: longtermmemmory

“Dump Guiliani and the party unites.”

Ever since the Rudy crowd got pitched from FR there has been no uniting that I can see. In fact this place has become a political cat fight on threads about the candidates.


32 posted on 10/13/2007 11:06:24 PM PDT by jwh_Denver ("Ok, you hens, write Hillary's next speech, it ought to be easy.")
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To: longtermmemmory
Dump Guiliani and the party unites.

There are many more rinos than you can count who also have to go. Rudy isn't even a drop in the bucket compared to their numbers and influence on the GOP. Many are deeply entrenched in the GOP and in leadership positions. For example, examine thoroughly the Ohio GOP for the past 30-40 years...damn near all rinos or country club republicans who worship the moderate vote.

37 posted on 10/13/2007 11:44:04 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: longtermmemmory
Dump Guiliani and the party unites.

That's also surrender monkey talk.

Dumping Giuliani is fine, IF you retain his 30+% of GOP primary voters. If you don't, the party's over.

The Giuliani voters have been receiving incredible flak and aren't shooting back (or else they get zapped). However, this is a huge voting bloc in the party, if not a huge FReeping block.

We hear over and over again that the GOP cannot win without, is doomed without, etc, etc, etc the socon faction. Fine.

But Rudy is leading or second in every GOP primary voter poll. Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo are under 5% everywhere.

Do without Rudy? Of course.

Do without the Rudy voter? Impossible.

After Rudy is dumped in the way you would have him dumped, how can you possibly imagine the remnant of the GOP can assemble a national majority?

45 posted on 10/14/2007 5:04:08 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Dump Guiliani and the party unites.

I totally agree. Get him out of the race and all this angst goes away.

He is the problem and will cause a defeat.

It makes no sense to run a candidate that too many oppose.

46 posted on 10/14/2007 5:20:56 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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