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To: John123

The Templars were slaughtered by the French king as part of the consolidation of power that led to royal absolutism in France, England, Spain etc. Documents about it are found in French archives as well as archives in Rome. The history was created by the king of France; records of it were created by the various people involved. The “Roman Church” (to use your polemic language) is simply making documents available. That costs money. It’s normal for researchers to pay fees for obtaining documents, as any genealogist will tell you.

Why don’t you take your animosity toward the “Roman Church” and shove it?


19 posted on 10/12/2007 5:17:36 PM PDT by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis

So you’re saying the Roman Catholic hierarchy were mere bystanders during the Knights demise?


22 posted on 10/12/2007 5:23:43 PM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis
Historians believe Philip owed debts to the Templars and used the accusations to arrest their leaders and extract, under torture, confessions of heresy in order to seize the order's riches.

The Templars were slaughtered by the French king as part of the consolidation of power that led to royal absolutism in France, England, Spain etc. Documents about it are found in French archives as well as archives in Rome. The history was created by the king of France; records of it were created by the various people involved. The “Roman Church” (to use your polemic language) is simply making documents available. That costs money. It’s normal for researchers to pay fees for obtaining documents, as any genealogist will tell you.

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The French weren't alone in that regard. The German Princes of the Heretic Martin Luther's day, didn't have a love for his changes as much as the pretty plum of the Vatican's property.

24 posted on 10/12/2007 5:35:49 PM PDT by olde north church (Epitaph for America: We weren't humble enough to be pragmatic.)
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis

tut tut, Di

take a deep breath


35 posted on 10/12/2007 6:19:26 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis
Why don’t you take your animosity toward the “Roman Church” and shove it?

OH!!! You didn't turn the other cheek like Jesus says...

And no matter how you "spin it" the Roman Catholic Church was complicit in that sordid chapter. 20 Hail Marys for you sinner...

47 posted on 10/12/2007 7:21:47 PM PDT by John123 ("What good fortune for the governments that the people do not think" -- Adolf Hitler)
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