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this is the kind of stuff that is going to bring down America the Beautiful. Is there not a single liberal entity who is on the side of U.S. of A? We are fighting a war on terror on many fronts. It's Americans against the world, Press, Terrorists, and [insert your group here]. Our Founding Fathers would drag the current state of affairs and snuff the life out of it.
1 posted on 10/11/2007 1:55:15 PM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: Ancient Drive

good luck finding a judge stupid enough to give them “legal standing” — oh wait....


2 posted on 10/11/2007 2:00:09 PM PDT by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: Ancient Drive

All things aside...

Honestly...do these tards at these so called “Civil Rights” groups really want to piss the guys that work at BlackWater off?

It’s not like they’re sueing government employees (who have to play nice) to take “In God We Trust” off of coins etc...


3 posted on 10/11/2007 2:03:59 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: Ancient Drive

CENTER FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS
Vincent Warren
Executive Director

Prominent Civil Rights Leader and Former ACLU Senior Attorney

Vince is an experience litigator and innovative advocate who knows how to turn cases into causes,” said Michael Ratner, CCR President.

At the ACLU he also litigated Dasrath v. Continental Airlines on behalf of plaintiffs removed from an airplane shortly after 9/11 because they were perceived to be Arab or Muslim. Mr. Warren coordinated the ACLU’s Hurricane Katrina Response Team; established the ACLU Native American Working Group to advance civil rights and combat educational discrimination in the Dakotas; and created and chaired the New York Indigent Defense Litigation Roundtable.

Mr. Warren has also worked as a staff attorney in the criminal defense division of the Legal Aid Society in Brooklyn, the single largest provider of criminal defense services for the City of New York. His public service includes working as a judicial law clerk in the U.S. District Court in New York; monitoring the Truth and Reconciliation Commission Hearings in South Africa under the auspices of the National Lawyer’s Guild; and serving as a volunteer with the Haitian Refugee Center in Miami.


5 posted on 10/11/2007 2:09:29 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Ancient Drive
Beyond the courtroom, Mr. Warren was a leading African American voice for affirmative action, collaborating with the African American Policy Forum to launch a national public education project about local policies to remedy systemic discrimination.

Mr. Warren will oversee all of the Center’s legal, advocacy and education work in protecting and advancing the rights guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, including the Center’s dockets on Guantánamo, Government Misconduct, International Human Rights, Racial & Economic Justice and Corporate Accountability.

Vincent Warren, CCR

To the rest of the world, Guantánamo is a symbol of overreaching presidential abuse of power, of arrogance, hypocrisy, lawlessness, and torture. To the Bush administration, it is merely a public relations disaster and, as such, it must be fixed, not by providing fair hearings to the detainees and ensuring that due process and the laws of the land are respected, but by mounting a vigorous and well-orchestrated PR campaign in response. One of the most damning documents on Guantánamo to be produced is known as the Seton Hall report and showed, analyzing the government’s own documents, that 92 percent of the people at Guantánamo were not Al Qaeda fighters and that 55 percent had been found by the military to not have committed any hostile act against the U.S. or our allies.

The Center for Constitutional Rights has represented the detainees at Guantánamo from the very beginning. We have visited men driven to despair with less and less faith that they would ever see justice, men who were turned over for enormous bounties to the U.S. because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, or men who were fleeing the conflict, or men who were cooks, goatherders and other minor actors swept up and locked away, now lost to their families and branded terrorists forever. At most, five percent of the men at Guantánamo were captured by U.S. forces. In five years, only ten people out of 786 at Guantánamo have ever been charged with a crime; only one ever went before a Military Commission, and not a single one is currently charged.

6 posted on 10/11/2007 2:15:27 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Ancient Drive

More diversion from the left to masked the turn for success in Iraq and get compete moonbat control of government in ‘08


8 posted on 10/11/2007 2:28:30 PM PDT by Hayzo
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To: Ancient Drive

Um, wait a minute. The alleged offense occurred where? The suit is filed where? Who has jurisdiction where?


9 posted on 10/11/2007 3:01:02 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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A US human rights group says it is suing private security firm Blackwater for unspecified damages for war crimes and wrongfully killing Iraqi civilians.

I am not a lawyer or ever worked for one, but I understand the concept of "standing", which is a necessary precursor to a suit.

Unless this group has already made a successful argument that foreign persons, in areas where most of them are trying to kill our military personnel, are entitled to be represented by treasonous doofuses in American courts...

10 posted on 10/11/2007 3:11:11 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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This is not just about security firms from our country or our country in Iraq. The left hates security firms like Blackwater.

Search “Executive Outcomes” on google. I wondered how long these private security firms we were using would last.

16 posted on 10/11/2007 5:49:47 PM PDT by JSteff (Reality= realizing you are not nearly important enough for the government to tap your phone.)
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To: Ancient Drive

For better or worse, these contractors are in fact immune from Iraqi law under agreements with the Iraqi government.

US law has no jurisdiction in Iraq, and this party has no standing to bring suit.

Looks like a non-starter to me.

Usual leftist waste of time.


20 posted on 10/11/2007 8:27:42 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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I wonder how the fair and balanced CCR is doing with the lawsuit against the guys who ambushed these Blackwater contractors? </sarcasm>

MARCH 31, 2004 : (FALLUJAH, IRAQ : BLACKWATER CONTRACTORS ARE AMBUSHED, KILLED AND THEIR BODIES DESECRATED; ELSEWHERE A BOMB KILLS 5 US SOLDIERS ) Four American civilians working as security contractors were ambushed and killed in Fallujah last Wednesday [March 31, 2004]. Their bodies were burned, mutilated and dragged through the streets; two were hanged from a bridge. In a separate attack the same day, five U.S. soldiers died when a bomb exploded under their armored vehicle near Fallujah.---- "Fallujah leaders set defiant tone ," By Kevin Johnson, USA TODAY , Posted 4/4/2004

22 posted on 10/11/2007 10:39:15 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; Ajnin; ...

Ping


31 posted on 10/12/2007 12:47:23 AM PDT by freema (Still stoked about Hamdania. It ain't over.)
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The colonel was furious. "Can you believe it? They actually drew their weapons on U.S. soldiers." He was describing a 2006 car accident, in which an SUV full of Blackwater operatives had crashed into a U.S. Army Humvee on a street in Baghdad's Green Zone. The colonel, who was involved in a follow-up investigation and spoke on the condition he not be named, said the Blackwater guards disarmed the U.S. Army soldiers and made them lie on the ground at gunpoint until they could disentangle the SUV. ...

Unlike nearly everyone else who enters the Green Zone, said an American soldier who guards a gate, Blackwater gunmen refuse to stop and clear their weapons of live ammunition once inside. One military contractor, who spoke anonymously for fear of retribution in his industry, recounted the story of a Blackwater operative who answered a Marine officer's order to put his pistol on safety when entering a base post office by saying, "This is my safety," and wiggling his trigger finger in the air. "Their attitude was, 'We're f---ing security; we don't have to answer to anybody'."

--Source

38 posted on 10/12/2007 9:31:37 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (Texas: "We close at five.")
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