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1 posted on 10/08/2007 10:56:51 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Gabz; fire and forget; oswegodeee; woollyone; Squat; SICSEMPERTYRANNUS; ECM; cardinal4; ...

Ping to a Republican-American Editorial.

If you want on this list let me know. If you want off, you have to pay me.


2 posted on 10/08/2007 10:58:12 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

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5 posted on 10/08/2007 11:06:09 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (("democrat" 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses.'))
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When in the Bahamas, it’s best not to bring up his name.


6 posted on 10/08/2007 11:06:51 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Graybeard58

The unfair maligning of Christopher Columbus and basically any other white European man goes back at least 20 years to its genesis on college campuses.


9 posted on 10/08/2007 11:11:00 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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They also claim he was complicit in "the genocide" of Indians through the introduction of infectious diseases.

Considering their penchant for ripping people hearts out on pyramids and eating them? Civilization NEEDED to fall in the new world.

A lot of the indian tribes were little better than the Stone Age when they came in contact with the Spanish.

12 posted on 10/08/2007 11:26:29 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (False modesty is as great a sin as false pride.)
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The most accurate account is by Flip Wilson.


14 posted on 10/08/2007 11:52:24 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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Ping


18 posted on 10/08/2007 12:24:35 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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Whatever may have been reported, the use of smallpox as a weapon must have been impractical in colonial times because nobody understood the disease well enough to control it.

The obvious question arises: why did the diseases brought by Europeans wipe out indigenous peoples, and not the other way round? This is not really a difficult question - the Indians were on the edge of starvation already - but to say this is to acknowledge that Western civilization was in an objective sense better than the Indian culture.

19 posted on 10/08/2007 12:34:30 PM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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"The Europeans supplanted the Indians simply because the latter never evolved beyond a Stone Age existence."

Well, Australia, the North America under discussion, and sub-Saharan Africa were all three places where the "Evil Europeans" visited their evil-doings.......Also three places where there existed very, pardon the expression, not very forward progressing residents......as in the three R's? for example....Yeh, I know....I'm just another old white bigot for that observation

21 posted on 10/08/2007 12:53:00 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: Graybeard58; All

In this thread: Armcharl anthropologists.

I’m LOL’ing.


23 posted on 10/08/2007 1:12:56 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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I don’t go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of ten are, and I shouldn’t inquire too closely into the case of the tenth.
The most vicious cowboy has more moral principle than the average Indian.”
Theodore Roosevelt (1858 - 1919)


26 posted on 10/08/2007 2:34:27 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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Well, the editorial is right and wrong. They’re right by saying there was no genocide against Native Americans by Columbus, or, for that matter, most settlers from the Old World. The editorial is wrong about the Stone Age existence of Native people, however. The book “1491” and many other well-researched publications outline precontact Native people living in organized villages with agriculture, manipulating the environment, and in some places gathering together in empires (as bloodthirsty as any on Earth). If the writer read “Guns, Germs, and Steel,” he or she would realize that the fatal accident of Native people was lack of domesticated animals in the New World, which meant a lack of diseases transmitted from those animals to the humans tending them. Diamond makes the argument that most of the highly infectious diseases of the Old World, such as measles, influenza, and smallpox, started in the animals domesticated by Old World people. When those diseases reached the New World, the Natives had no immunity, and their death rate was grotesquely high. (The “1491” author says perhaps up to 95 percent of the New World’s population died off.)

Having said all that - an accident of history isn’t genocide.

Smearing Columbus is no accident, either. For more on that, look up “The Frankfurt School” and “Antonio Gramsci.”


28 posted on 10/08/2007 5:22:44 PM PDT by redpoll (redpoll)
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