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Costa Rica votes yes to US free trade deal: president
AFP via Channel News Asia ^ | October 8, 2007 | unattributed

Posted on 10/08/2007 5:43:10 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

SAN JOSE: Costa Rica's president Oscar Arias declared victory Sunday in his drive to join a free trade deal with the United States, announcing on television that voters had backed it in a referendum.

"The people of Costa Rica have said yes to the free trade agreement, and that for me is a sacred wish," Arias said in a televised address to the nation after Costa Ricans voted in their tens of thousands on the measure.

Earlier partial results showed that with 73 per cent of votes counted, just over 50 per cent of voters said yes to the agreement against 47.5 per cent who voted no, the Supreme Electoral Tribunal said. Turnout was around 60 per cent.

The Central American Free Trade Agreement is to open local markets to US products but also boost Costa Rican exports to the United States.

It has been accepted by several other countries in the region, but faced left-wing opposition in Costa Rica, where Arias was forced to call a referendum on it after more than three years of domestic debate. - AFP/ac


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cafta; caftadr; costarica; trade; wto
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A Costa Rican woman holds a national flag with 'Yes' written on it as she leaves the polling station

1 posted on 10/08/2007 5:43:11 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot; expat_panama; Mase

The Left is lawyering-up as we speak. The ACLU is air-dropping a battalion straight into the capital.


2 posted on 10/08/2007 5:44:44 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
SAN JOSE: Costa Rica's president Oscar Arias declared victory Sunday in his drive to join a free trade deal...

So, there are no more regulations of any kind in trade between the U.S. and Costa Rica?

3 posted on 10/08/2007 5:47:28 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: raybbr

Are you kidding?


4 posted on 10/08/2007 5:49:01 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Are you kidding?

No. Wouldn't that be the definition of "free trade"?

5 posted on 10/08/2007 5:51:32 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: raybbr

I have little patience for paleos playing stupid in the morning. Wait until later.


6 posted on 10/08/2007 5:52:30 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

EPI is deeply saddened.


7 posted on 10/08/2007 5:54:09 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: 1rudeboy
I have little patience for paleos playing stupid in the morning. Wait until later.

I take it that means that it's not "free trade" then is it?

8 posted on 10/08/2007 5:56:47 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Pelosi, the Dems, and don’t forget Bernie Sanders . . . they are all probably frantically checking to see if Diebold is involved. The polls indicated the measure was going down to defeat. In fact, I’d like to wait and see. I can’t imagine this result remaining unchallenged in some fashion, if only by the Left rounding-up some college students and public-sector employees in order to have a protest.


9 posted on 10/08/2007 5:58:28 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: raybbr

No regulations of any kind is commonly referred-to as “anarchy.” Look it up. And go away.


10 posted on 10/08/2007 5:59:38 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: raybbr

So, there are no more regulations of any kind in trade between the U.S. and Costa Rica?”

Not in regards to hundreds of millions of our tax dollars going to them in grants and aid and all the goodies tax paying Americans don’t get.


11 posted on 10/08/2007 6:05:31 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: 1rudeboy
No regulations of any kind is commonly referred-to as “anarchy.” Look it up. And go away.

LOL. Okay. So it's not free trade. Just wanted to clear that up.

12 posted on 10/08/2007 6:06:11 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: raybbr

For the umpteenth time.


13 posted on 10/08/2007 6:07:55 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
For the "umpteenth" time.

It that a "free trade" term?

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

14 posted on 10/08/2007 6:09:06 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: expat_panama; raybbr

Check this out. The Americans and Ticos have descended into a state of lawlessness and anarchy.


15 posted on 10/08/2007 6:09:30 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy; mysterio
Pelosi, the Dems, and don’t forget Bernie Sanders . .

I wonder how many Freepers are deeply saddened?

16 posted on 10/08/2007 6:10:46 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; raybbr

I’m thinking of starting a new thread titled, “What was raybbr’s point?”


17 posted on 10/08/2007 6:21:38 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot

As far as I can tell, it was that CAFTA-DR contained pages.


18 posted on 10/08/2007 6:22:34 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
I heard, like NAFTA, there were 10,000 pages. Or was it 100,000 pages? Printed on imported, sovereignty stealing, paper.
19 posted on 10/08/2007 6:25:11 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: 1rudeboy
LThe Left is lawyering-up as we speak. The ACLU is air-dropping a battalion straight into the capital.

Yea! We are sending $1billion to Mexico after 14 years of NAFTA. Free trade. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

20 posted on 10/08/2007 6:27:30 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: 1rudeboy
"50 per cent of voters said yes to the agreement against 47.5 per cent who voted no"

Wait a minute...!


21 posted on 10/08/2007 6:38:38 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: 1rudeboy
I'm not an expert on these matters but an agreement to me is absolutely the right thing to do. To much of the world is organizing against US to just bury our economic heads in the sand. I could be wrong but I don’t believe agreements in any way have authority over the Constitution. Treaty's like LOST are a different story, they ultimately hold authority over the Constitution.

As much as I would like to give the world the isolationist middle finger, I don't think it would be in our long term interest. Just IMO subject to change

22 posted on 10/08/2007 6:46:05 AM PDT by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: texastoo

Your problem, my friend, is with the idea of foreign aid and not trade.


23 posted on 10/08/2007 6:49:17 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: texastoo
In fact, one can surmise that you have less of a problem with the U.S. spending money on Mexican drug-interdiction efforts and by extension the War against Drugs (the efficacy of which is, and should be, debated), than with trade in general.
24 posted on 10/08/2007 6:52:38 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: billorites

I wonder if they used Hugo Chavez’s voting machines for the election?


25 posted on 10/08/2007 6:57:51 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: 1rudeboy
In fact, one can surmise that you have less of a problem with the U.S. spending money on Mexican drug-interdiction efforts and by extension the War against Drugs (the efficacy of which is, and should be, debated), than with trade in general.

I have a problem subsidizing Mexico for anything, anything. After all NAFTA was supposed to solve Mexicos problems. Lies,lies, lies from the free traders. Every year we subsidize Mexico for something or another. So NAFTA was and is a failure especially after 14 years.

26 posted on 10/08/2007 6:59:15 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: Archon of the East

The EU is working hard to develop a solid trading front against US trade - but with limited success so far thanks to friends like Britain and Poland.

We really need to bring the Americas together as trade partners to counter EU efforts. And, don’t forget China is worming its way into this hemisphere big time.


27 posted on 10/08/2007 7:02:17 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: texastoo
So NAFTA was and is a failure especially after 14 years.

Exactly, it only boosted trade with Mexico from $81.5 billion in 1993 to $332.23 billion in 2006.

28 posted on 10/08/2007 7:05:41 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Costa Ricans vote with paper ballots. It was a very simple one too. Only two options: Yes or No. The lawyers won´t be able to play the “Chad Game”. Also, all Costa Ricans must show a photo ID before voting. If the lawyers start attacking the voting results, I will be very curious as to their legal strategy.

There was lots of activity around my Costa Rican neighborhood: Banners, honking horns, people dressed in No or Si tee shirts and hats. About 1/2 block from the voting booths the two camps had their tents ups and eager volunteers ready to get voters to the polls. In my neighborhood the two camps were peaceful, but the TV new showed one neighborhood where things got very verbal. The No people had lots of tattoos and rings th

My husband and I walked over to the local mall here just out side San Jose, and we were careful to avoid passing the “No” people. We look far too American and they looked far too tattooed, body pierced, and hate those eeevil yankees for my comfort.

Today, the La Nacion, ( the leading Costa Rican newspaper ) devoted its entire front page to one single headline: “ Si!”.

I am attending a Spanish language school here in San Jose, and every morning my husband and I walk through the University of Costa Rica campus. There is plenty of anti-American, EEEEvil-capitalism, pro-Marxist propaganda pasted on nearly every free pole and flat surface. Also, LOTS and LOTS of “Vote No!” graffiti everywhere. There is little to none for the Si side.

what bothers me is how close the election was. Apparently nearly half the voters agree with the hate-America activists.

Marxism is alive and well here in this part of the country. It is also alive and well in our own country. Marxists have infested our K-12 schools, colleges and universities, our social welfare agencies, and they are found elected positions of every kind. Unless we start calling Marxism what it is, we will lose this philosophical civil war.

29 posted on 10/08/2007 7:06:44 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You waste too much time posting on the internet. You could be spending that time searching for the next cheap labor pool to ship US jobs to.


30 posted on 10/08/2007 7:07:42 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

You want me to hire cheap labor? Why would they work for an evil American? Oh, yeah, I forgot, jobs working for American companies pay better. Stupid foreigners, working at better paying jobs. Too bad they’re not as smart as you.


31 posted on 10/08/2007 7:09:42 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Exactly, it only boosted trade with Mexico from $81.5 billion in 1993 to $332.23 billion in 2006.

How much of your figures are from inflation? How much of your figures show that we just changed trading partners such as buying oil from Saudi to Mexico? How much of you figures show that Americans send products to Mexico to be shipped back here.

If NAFTA was so good, why are we subsidizing Mexico to the tune of $1billion this year? Face it, NAFTA is a failure just like the other free trade agreements.

32 posted on 10/08/2007 7:13:17 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: elpadre
Trade is always a good thing, but I do understand why people are cynical about these agreements. Who wouldn't be with all of the dishonesty and obfuscation that occurs in Washington. Why should someone believe they are doing this in our best interest.I to question why a trade "agreement" needs to be thousands of pages long. But overall we can not survive without trade.
33 posted on 10/08/2007 7:14:13 AM PDT by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
jobs working for American companies pay better.

They get an extra pillow for their cot at the factory? Maybe even an additional bread ration every other weekend!
34 posted on 10/08/2007 7:14:48 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: billorites

"...73 per cent of votes counted, just over 50 per cent of voters said yes..."

Some think what counts is the people that vote.  Well it isn't.  All that matters is the people who count the votes.

35 posted on 10/08/2007 7:17:26 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: texastoo

In what may come as a shock to you, NAFTA was supposed to open up the Mexican market to U.S. exports, and it is a glowing success. You are just looking for excuses . . . because you have a problem with foreign aid (as do I), you are firing upon the wrong targer.


36 posted on 10/08/2007 7:21:09 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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oops . . . target


37 posted on 10/08/2007 7:21:33 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Archon of the East
Treaty's like LOST are a different story, they ultimately hold authority over the Constitution.

The Constitution can not be overridden by anything but a Constitutional Amendment. Treaties are commitments made by our government, but our government only has as much authority as granted to it by the Constitution, and any commitments made by the government that exceed its authority are not valid.

The problem is that the Supreme Court is who gets to decide when the government exceeds its authority, and the Court has a poor track record of reigning in the government.

38 posted on 10/08/2007 7:22:50 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: wintertime

Have faith. You just described an American campus.


39 posted on 10/08/2007 7:24:14 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Foreign aid’s bad, so is foreign immigration, so foreign trade must be bad too.


40 posted on 10/08/2007 7:36:47 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: 1rudeboy
because you have a problem with foreign aid (as do I), you are firing upon the wrong targer.

We have been subsidizing Mexico for years since the passage of NAFTA. is a failure.

41 posted on 10/08/2007 7:48:19 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: texastoo

I’m simply remarking on the absurdity of your position: that we shouldn’t open markets to our goods exports because someone claimed such an agreement would eliminate foreign aid.


42 posted on 10/08/2007 7:56:11 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: texastoo

Those are all very good questions. Please ping me when you find the answers.


43 posted on 10/08/2007 7:58:34 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: mysterio

What is it about higher pay that do you not understand?


44 posted on 10/08/2007 7:59:35 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: untrained skeptic
Just caught the story on FOX about the scum that raped and killed those innocent girls in Texas in 93. They had on a prosecutor from the case and he did directly answer whether the international courts decision to overturn the ruling holds any authority over the Texas court. And we withdrew from that treaty. Apparently it will all boil down to the SCOTUS deciding whether Bush has the authority to do so. This is the first time I have ever not preceded Bush with “president”.
45 posted on 10/08/2007 8:06:24 AM PDT by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: Archon of the East
and he did directly

did NOT

46 posted on 10/08/2007 8:08:01 AM PDT by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: Archon of the East

This will tell us if the new judges are liberal or conservative.


47 posted on 10/08/2007 8:25:28 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: Archon of the East

I don’t think the U.S. has withdrawn from the 1963 Vienna Convention. In any case, that’s a subject for another thread.


48 posted on 10/08/2007 8:26:25 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: expat_panama
Some think what counts is the people that vote. Well it isn't. All that matters is the people who count the votes.

Last election Bush pulled foreigners in to observe the vote count. Bush is a globalist.

49 posted on 10/08/2007 8:28:55 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: Toddsterpatriot

$1.44 an hour is more pay than $1.40 an hour, but both wages suck, and American workers shouldn’t have to compete tariff free with low wage labor markets.


50 posted on 10/08/2007 8:29:25 AM PDT by mysterio
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