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Supreme Court Rebuffs Case Of Teacher Fired For (Anti-War "Peace") Comments
Orlando Sentinel ^ | October 3, 2007 | Tamara Lytle

Posted on 10/04/2007 7:02:27 AM PDT by DogByte6RER

Supreme Court rebuffs case of teacher fired for comments Tamara Lytle

Washington Correspondent

October 3, 2007

WASHINGTON

Kissimmee Middle School teacher Deborah Mayer's long, lonely and expensive legal fight over a war-related classroom comment ended with two words.

"Cert denied," her attorney e-mailed her, which is legalese for the U.S. Supreme Court dismissing her appeal without hearing it. Mayer was fired in Bloomington, Ind., in 2003 after a classroom current-events discussion about peace protesters during which she said "I honk for peace."

Mayer claimed her dismissal was an abridgment of her First Amendment right to free speech and a dangerous precedent for teachers nationally. The Bloomington school district said it fired her because she wasn't a good teacher.

The Supreme Court, on its first day of its term Monday, decided to let stand a lower-court ruling in favor of the district. The court gave no explanation, which is not unusual.

Tim Lenz, political-science professor at Florida Atlantic University, said the court issued only 74 decisions last year out of about 8,000 cases appealed to the justices. In addition, Mayer's loss was not a surprise because recent court decisions have favored administrators in lawsuits by government employees and students, Lenz said.

Mayer said her troubles started on Jan. 10, 2003 -- the eve of the Iraq war -- during a weekly current-events discussion in her Grades 4-6 class at Clear Creek Elementary School. A pupil asked her if she would participate in a peace rally.

"I honk for peace," Mayer, a veteran teacher in her first year at Bloomington, said she told them. She said she also told the students, "People ought to seek out peaceful solutions before going to war."

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: brainwashing; classroombias; education; indoctrination; peaceniks; publicschools; scotus; usefulidiots
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"I honk for peace."

Yes...and you apparently flunk your job for peace too.

1 posted on 10/04/2007 7:02:34 AM PDT by DogByte6RER
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“’The First Amendment does not entitle primary and secondary teachers, when conducting the education of captive audiences, to cover topics, or advocate viewpoints, that depart from the curriculum adopted by the school system,’ the appeals court ruled.”

This MUST be the standard for all education, K-12 and college.


2 posted on 10/04/2007 7:03:40 AM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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“”People ought to seek out peaceful solutions before going to war.””

yeah, we did that idiot.

You should be dismissed for being a moron.


3 posted on 10/04/2007 7:04:09 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: DogByte6RER

I’m a teacher...and I am embarrassed that this ignorant person doesn’t know that her right to free speech does not include the right to indoctrinate her students contrary to the curriculum approved by the school. She flunks in every way...and is a poster child for what the NEA led teacher’s unions have done to our educational system.


4 posted on 10/04/2007 7:06:44 AM PDT by Keith (ANY REPUBLICAN in 2008 -- it's about defeating Mrs. Bill Clinton)
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To: DogByte6RER
"’The First Amendment does not entitle primary and secondary teachers, when conducting the education of captive audiences, to cover topics, or advocate viewpoints"

Now, if only Revisionist History and the materials used to teach it by the Socialist-led NEA and AFT were also covered, the indoctrination of youth to the Socialist Manifesto would be removed.

5 posted on 10/04/2007 7:10:06 AM PDT by traditional1 ( Fred Thompson-The ONLY electable Republican Candidate)
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To: DogByte6RER

This is an excellent precedent for all the socialist, leftist classroom politicians that INFEST OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM. Choke on it, libs.


6 posted on 10/04/2007 7:10:28 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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“You should be dismissed for being a moron.”

The school district did say they dismissed her because she was not a good teacher.


7 posted on 10/04/2007 7:12:02 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: DogByte6RER

I rather doubt the school fired her merely for making those few statements. But of course, as a leftist, she would never admit she was to blame for her own job loss. It’s always someone else’s fault.


8 posted on 10/04/2007 7:13:54 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: DogByte6RER
"I have gone all the way to the Supreme Court and I have still not had my day in court," said Mayer.

Wrong. The SC is the final appeals court in cases like hers. That she doesn't realize that when she lost her original case, she had her day in court - she should be thrown from teaching for cause - cluelessness.

9 posted on 10/04/2007 7:18:36 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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“’The First Amendment does not entitle primary and secondary teachers, when conducting the education of captive audiences, to cover topics, or advocate viewpoints, that depart from the curriculum adopted by the school system,’ the appeals court ruled.”

Fact is, it doesn't provide any employee that privilege.

10 posted on 10/04/2007 7:19:15 AM PDT by evad
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To: DogByte6RER

“I have gone all the way to the Supreme Court and I have still not had my day in court,”

I think I hear that little violin in the background playing “My Heart Bleeds for You.”


11 posted on 10/04/2007 7:24:09 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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Deborah Mayer's long, lonely and expensive legal fight

One can only hope it was an extremely expensive lesson learned....
nah, no chance.
This schmuck has no clue as to the difference between education and indoctrination...any more than she understands the meaning of the First Ammendment.

12 posted on 10/04/2007 7:27:58 AM PDT by evad
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To: DogByte6RER
Besides: Current events in the 4th grade? We didn't do that when I was a kid.
13 posted on 10/04/2007 7:29:04 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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"People ought to seek out peaceful solutions before going to war."

Translation: "I have a problem with us defending ourselves anytime we have a Republican president".

14 posted on 10/04/2007 7:33:02 AM PDT by kromike
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Notice how they try to mess with the timeline here.

Mayer said her troubles started on Jan. 10, 2003 -- the eve of the Iraq war...
Jan. 10, 2003 was NOT the eve of the Iraq war. That would be like saying Christmas Eve really falls on Columbus Day.

This proves that she's a moonbat all around, and was not necessarily just opposed to the Iraq war itself.

15 posted on 10/04/2007 7:39:46 AM PDT by jdm
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wasn’t it 12 years on negotiations within the UN Security Council and elsewhere. Saddam had every opportunity to wage peace with the US and West, he wanted war.


16 posted on 10/04/2007 7:48:06 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: Slapshot68

wasn’t it 12 years on negotiations within the UN Security Council and elsewhere. Saddam had every opportunity to wage peace with the US and West, he wanted war.


17 posted on 10/04/2007 7:48:19 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: DogByte6RER

There used to be four primary rules for teachers on how to get fired:

1) Offend and anger your students.
2) Offend and anger their parents.
3) Offend and anger the other teachers and administrators.
4) Offend and anger the community.

Hotheads and radicals who become teachers are always horrified to learn that they are not permitted to use their podium as a soapbox to rant and rave in front of their students. They regard this as totally unfair, as it goes against their entire reason for wanting to “teach” in the first place.

There are, of course, other rules, some of which are not as obvious, such as “teachers are never fired for passing too many students”, “you should not have sex with your students”, and “never hit a student in front of witnesses, or in a way that leaves a mark.”


18 posted on 10/04/2007 7:54:48 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: Slapshot68

The lefties always do that last resort thing—trouble is they never want to admit it’s time for that last resort.


19 posted on 10/04/2007 8:31:48 AM PDT by beaversmom
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"wasn’t it 12 years on negotiations within the UN Security Council and elsewhere."

Yup.

"Saddam had every opportunity to wage peace with the US and West,"

Yup.

"he wanted war."

Yup.

...& war's what he got.

20 posted on 10/04/2007 8:38:56 AM PDT by Landru (Made it to the dark side of the moon.)
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