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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most of them haven’t, mainly it has been Dobson. Mainly, imo, because he had another choice in mind.

I disagree with the bottom paragraphs, that Rudy would feel indebted and therefore be more in allaince with social conservative’s. Fool’s gold.

I do think some people have made a mistake.

Yes, I DO feel the coalition will fracture with rudy as a nominee. The republicans are kidding themselves if they believe otherwise. Even IF in some fantasy it did not, Reagan Democrats aren’t voting for him. Then there are those conservative’s that don’t bother to vote absent a Presidential election because of these issues. Yeah, count them out. No amount of lectures about DEMOCRATS managed to coerce these voters into voting for republicans in 2006, and it won’t work in 2008.

Where I feel some “leaders” have gone wrong, is that they assessed Thompson and didn’t for whatever reason feel he was good enough. And their congregations apparently assessed him and feel differently. Those poll numbers have risen in spite of everyone telling us not to support him, and those numbers have come from conservatives/christians. IMO, some people need to get back in touch with their base. Not just Republican politicians, but punditry and coalitions on the right. From what I can tell the only coalition typically aligned with the right in presidential politics the last few years that is listening to its base...is the NRA.

Speaking only for myself as a social conservative all my life, Thompson’s acceptable to me. I may not have nailed G.W.B.’s character completely (never suspected the names he’d call his base), but I was right that if he EVER found a VETO pen it would be on embryonic stem cell research.

I was right about his faith and pro-life credentials.

I was right in opposing Clinton, although I think people were also right to oppose Bush 41 with his new world order talk and questionable stance on life.

I don’t think Thompson is as deeply religious as Reagan or as pro life as Bush, but I don’t believe his views are too far away to make him unacceptable. I have a pretty good track record on social/pro-life/faith candidates and have cause to trust my instincts here whatever their scepticism on top.


10 posted on 10/02/2007 12:11:53 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (A government that’s big enough to do everything for us is powerful enough to do anything to us.- F.T)
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To: Soul Seeker

Former Senator Fred Thompson is the only major candidate that gets it. He makes decisions based on principles. Principles don’t change. You have to stand for something and not change who you are based on the polls. That is what Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani have done and all of the Democrats do it. Give me a leader that will stand by his principles anyday versus someone that stands for everything.

I know many, many Republicans that will stay home if Rudy Giuliani is the candidate. He does not represent our values as Conservatives, and never will. Mitt Romney is a RINO (though seemingly a very nice man) that simply has everything else and nothing to do. “I guess I’ll just try to buy the presidency”. Conservatives will simply stay home and the Democrats will pick up additional seats in the House and probably get the 60 seats in the Senate they need to completely destroy our Country. Nice picture huh?

However, I think Fred can bring America back together, if that’s even possible. America needs a rebirth of patriotism and honor. Republicans also need a rebirth. President Reagan was our last rebirth and he can never be duplicated. Fred Thompson will bring his own down-to-earth common sense to this Country and strength back to our party. A little of the good old days of faith and family would do well for this Country. If a Conservative runs as a Conservative, he will win!

Think of it this way: Eight years of another Clinton White House? Now if that is not a sufficient enough reason to pull together as a party, as a Country, and fight this socialist liberal takeover of our government, what is? It is not impossible to take back the House and the Senate. We are winning in Iraq—they know it. The best they can do now is stop our progress and choose defeat, just like they did during Vietnam. We lost because Congress chose defeat. History repeats itself when not learned from.

Folks, we are in for the fight of our lives, just as our young men and women are fighting for our freedoms in Iraq and Afghanistan, we must fight for our Country right here and now! I truly believe Fred Thompson is the one man who can pull this party and nation back together! Rudy Giuliani will just tear us apart as a party. Liberal is liberal every day of the week.

Really tick off the leftist democrats and contribute to Fred Thompson: https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791


14 posted on 10/02/2007 12:23:43 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791)
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To: Soul Seeker
Most of them haven’t, mainly it has been Dobson. Mainly, imo, because he had another choice in mind.

I heard a brief clip of Gingrich when he was on Dobson's show. I was pretty sure from what was being said (he was making excuses for his multiple divorces, and Dobson was talking about how people can make mistakes, yada, yada, yada), that Dobson was going to push Gingrich...but he says he's not running, so wonder if that's really so.

103 posted on 10/02/2007 3:37:21 AM PDT by dawn53
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