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A New Yorker’s Puzzling Death in the Phoenix Airport(A possible explanation)
New York Times ^ | 10/01/07 | Sewell Chan

Posted on 10/01/2007 2:21:01 PM PDT by CaptainK

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To: CaptainK
... on her way to Tucson to enter an inpatient alcohol rehabilitation program.

Was she drinking? If so, she may have had an episode of limbic rage, something that occurs frequently with alcoholics.

61 posted on 10/01/2007 4:14:41 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: CaptainK
“This woman — who was 5-foot-7, less than 110 pounds — was without doubt emotionally disturbed..."

And her very concerned family let her travel alone - to rehab?

62 posted on 10/01/2007 4:14:55 PM PDT by norton
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To: Kimmers
This is so tragic.

No...this is very unfortunate and sad for the family.

"Tragic?" No, not from what we know. When a loser dies, we have a "waste," not a "tragedy."

63 posted on 10/01/2007 4:15:58 PM PDT by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: CaptainK
The New York City public advocate, Betsy Gotbaum, called this afternoon for an official investigation...

This one has deep do-do written all over it...The public advocate is a professional victimologist and by definition the police are guilty, guilty, guilty.

64 posted on 10/01/2007 4:19:57 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: BurbankKarl

You forgot Victor, Betsy’s husband. He was president of AFSCME District Council 37 (DC37), the largest municipal union in New York City.


65 posted on 10/01/2007 4:25:53 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFsiZ2l2K5U)
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To: mass55th

The report I heard yesterday was that no one knew she was in Phoenix or going to Tucson. I am surprised no one caught this on camera phone aka the Taze Me Bro video, or the UCLA tase in the library.


66 posted on 10/01/2007 4:25:56 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Red Badger
They asked her her name. She said "I'm Got Bomb." They arrested her and looked for her "bomb". She said she didn't have one, but instead kept insisting, 'no me, me, I'm Got Bomb". They wondered if it meant she was wired and searched her. etc. etc. I am guessing of course.
67 posted on 10/01/2007 4:29:15 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: CaptainK

They said that she was screaming at the top of her lungs and continued to scream in the holding cell and when she stopped screaming the guard/officer (whatever) went back to see why she stopped screaming. She was dead.


68 posted on 10/01/2007 4:33:34 PM PDT by Eva
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To: BurbankKarl

Your listing of this poor disturbed woman’s political donations imply that she was a liberal Democrat.

So what’s your point?


69 posted on 10/01/2007 4:34:09 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: JasonC

And her name is Gotbaum. Right—now it’s making some sense.


70 posted on 10/01/2007 4:39:21 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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Michael C. Manning, a lawyer who was hired on Sunday by the Gotbaum family

In 2001, Manning achieved the second largest commercial punitive damages verdict in Arizona history. The jury awarded Manning’s client a defense verdict on claims made against his clients and then awarded over $26 million in punitive damages.

http://tinyurl.com/23xzaw

In 1996, a successful five-count financial fraud complaint filed by Manning against then-Arizona’s Governor Fife J. Symington, III led to an eventual indictment by a federal grand jury. In 1999, he represented the family of a 34-year old man who was beaten to death by inmates in the Maricopa County Jail, which resulted in the largest ever wrongful death and civil rights settlement in Arizona history against defendants Sheriff Joe Arpaio and the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office. In a 2003 case against the Sheriff’s Office, as a result of the Sheriff’s Office refusal to settle the case, Manning and his trial team achieved a $9 million federal court verdict.

http://tinyurl.com/22bm5n

71 posted on 10/01/2007 4:41:44 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: CaptainK
I had a friend try to detox herself from alcohol and came down with the DTs. What a mess. Violent, hallucinating, fighting, I struggled to get her to a hospital and they said that she almost died before getting there. That could have been what happened here.
72 posted on 10/01/2007 5:10:14 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: SergeiRachmaninov

“very unfortunate and sad for the family”

I stand corrected, I agree with you.


73 posted on 10/01/2007 5:14:15 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: SergeiRachmaninov

“very unfortunate and sad for the family”

I stand corrected, I agree with you.


74 posted on 10/01/2007 5:14:52 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: CaptainK
Carol Anne Gotbaum has a 2-1/2 hour layover at the Phoenix Airport on her way to an alcohol rehabilitation facility to seek treatment for herself. Throwing down two hours worth of drinks on the way to rehab could easily make one oblivious to time and render faculties irrational. Seems one last drink(s) before rehab is not unusual. Sad. Can't blame the Police. Politics has no relevance. Condolences to the family and friends.
USAir NY to Tuson on Fridays with Phoenix 2:58pm Departure
Depart Arrive Flight # Aircraft Details
9:40 AM 05 Oct Fri Newark, NJ 12:21 PM 05 Oct Fri Phoenix, AZ Flight: 281 Class: Coach Airbus A320 On-Time: 80% Meal: Buy On Board Flight Time: 5 h 41 m
2:58 PM 05 Oct Fri Phoenix, AZ 3:42 PM 05 Oct Fri Tucson, AZ Flight: 2824 Class: Coach Canadair Regional Jet 900 On-Time: 70% Meal: None Flight Time: 0 h 44 m

75 posted on 10/01/2007 6:11:23 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: shield

My thoughts exactly. Doesn’t sound right.


76 posted on 10/01/2007 6:26:25 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: badbass

alas, you are right. The “legal rights” of the mentally ill pretend they can judge if they need medicine. But they don’t think straight, so how can they decide?


77 posted on 10/01/2007 6:44:54 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: badbass

alas, you are right. The “legal rights” of the mentally ill pretend they can judge if they need medicine. But they don’t think straight, so how can they decide?


78 posted on 10/01/2007 6:45:11 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: JRochelle

If she was a chronic alcohol abuser, she probably was not eating.


79 posted on 10/01/2007 8:31:17 PM PDT by sig226 (New additions to the list of democrat criminals - see my profile)
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To: aculeus
My guess is that she vomited, then choked to death on it. Autopsy is supposed to be today -

Lawyer: Outsider To Observe Flier's Autopsy

PHOENIX -- The family lawyer of the woman who died in a holding room at a Phoenix airport after being handcuffed and detained will have an independent expert present when an autopsy is performed on Tuesday.

80 posted on 10/02/2007 3:24:57 AM PDT by Ken H
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