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A New Yorker’s Puzzling Death in the Phoenix Airport(A possible explanation)
New York Times ^ | 10/01/07 | Sewell Chan

Posted on 10/01/2007 2:21:01 PM PDT by CaptainK

Updated, 4:47 p.m. | The New York City public advocate, Betsy Gotbaum, called this afternoon for an official investigation into the death of her 45-year-old stepdaughter-in-law, who died in police custody at the airport in Phoenix on Friday while on her way to Tucson to enter an inpatient alcohol rehabilitation program.

In a statement, Betsy Gotbaum’s office criticized the Phoenix police’s handling of the case. The statement said Carol Gotbaum had been “manhandled” and mistreated, sentiments that the family’s lawyer echoed in an interview.

“The family has not reached a conclusion as to whether her care and treatment were inappropriate, but the circumstances were highly unusual,” Michael C. Manning, a lawyer who was hired on Sunday by the Gotbaum family, told The New York Times in a phone interview. “This woman — who was 5-foot-7, less than 110 pounds — was without doubt emotionally disturbed, and at this stage the family understands why the Phoenix Police Department intervened, but it’s what happened after the intervention that causes us concern.”

(Excerpt) Read more at cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 10/01/2007 2:21:04 PM PDT by CaptainK
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A very sad situation all around. But unfortunately Betsy Gotbaum is already blaming the police.


2 posted on 10/01/2007 2:22:47 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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What did she do to get arrested in the first place?.....


3 posted on 10/01/2007 2:22:52 PM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back!)
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She missed her flight and became erratic when they would not let her board. She was put in handcuffs and left alone in a holding area for 10 minutes. When the cops returned she was dead.
4 posted on 10/01/2007 2:25:02 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Red Badger

Drunk?


5 posted on 10/01/2007 2:25:26 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Red Badger

She was late for the flight and they wouldn’t let her on the plane even though it was still at the departure gate.


6 posted on 10/01/2007 2:26:35 PM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: CaptainK

7 posted on 10/01/2007 2:27:39 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: CaptainK
She missed her flight and became erratic when they would not let her board.

Was she on standby or had the plane already left the gate?............

8 posted on 10/01/2007 2:31:02 PM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

They said she was screaming she was a sick woman.

My guess? They’ll find she was bipolar. Bipolar people do stuff like this all the time. The part of the brain that provides judgement and places restrictions on behavior just doesn’t work.

As someone with a bipolar husband that was abused by police, I can tell you many people with family members like this strongly feel police need more education on dealing with the truly ill.

Not only do mentally ill people get abused, but many physical illnesses, such as diabetes can cause a person to get abused by the police. Police think they are just being intractable.


9 posted on 10/01/2007 2:31:34 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Rennes Templar

“the jetway had disengaged from the plane”


She was late,she got mad,she lost it !

A sad situation,but an accident nonetheless.


10 posted on 10/01/2007 2:32:16 PM PDT by Mears
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To: CaptainK

My medical guess is that she misused antidepressants. Also, a simple thing such as hunger can set off someone who is emotionally disturbed and takes antidepressants erratically. Something to do with the blood sugar.


11 posted on 10/01/2007 2:33:48 PM PDT by montag813
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If the situation really happened as they said it did, it sounds like she did this to herself trying to get out of the shackles.

She was not in her right state of mind. She missed her flight which sent her into panic mode and then she was shackled which added to her personal frenzy, clearly not thinking rationally.

I was wondering if she was checking into alcohol rehab why would she be traveling alone?

This is so tragic.


12 posted on 10/01/2007 2:33:52 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: CaptainK

I find it very enlightening that in her “grief” Betsy Gotbum finds the time to hire lawyers and give interviews criticizing the Phoenix PD treatment of her step-daughter.


13 posted on 10/01/2007 2:36:12 PM PDT by RoadKingSE
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Police think they are just being intractable.

Well, they are!

14 posted on 10/01/2007 2:36:17 PM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Kimmers

There are no rehab centers in NY?


15 posted on 10/01/2007 2:36:36 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: CaptainK
at his request, the office had agreed to delay the autopsy by a day. Mr. Manning also said that he wanted an independent forensic pathologist to be present during the autopsy.

A sure sign litigation will follow. These quacks for hire always preceed legal action. Get 10 FP's in a room and you will typically get 10 opinions.

16 posted on 10/01/2007 2:36:44 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Kimmers

There are no rehab centers in NY?


17 posted on 10/01/2007 2:36:45 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: montag813

She was 5’7” and less than 110 lbs.

I’d say she was hungry a lot.


18 posted on 10/01/2007 2:39:10 PM PDT by JRochelle ( Soros is evil.)
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To: I still care

Not a good situation. Police are not doctors, but a bit of education might indeed help them do their job.


19 posted on 10/01/2007 2:39:13 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: TigersEye

ping


20 posted on 10/01/2007 2:39:57 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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