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N.Y. governor, mayor feud over driver's licenses for aliens
Associated Press (with Newsday) ^ | September 27, 2007 | Ben Dobbin

Posted on 09/27/2007 9:05:10 PM PDT by yorkie

Gov. Eliot Spitzer tore into New York City's mayor for lambasting the state's new driver's license policy for illegal aliens, calling it "legally wrong, morally wrong" for critics to say it will weaken national security and make it tougher for New Yorkers to fly.

Spitzer has been besieged by officials at all levels recently over his plan to allow illegal immigrants with valid foreign passports to get driver's licenses. Many local county clerks are incensed over the policy. One has already pledged not to follow it.

"Many of us think the whole idea is crazy and ill-fated," said Rensselaer County Clerk Frank Merola. "I myself will not process any driver's license renewal or driver's license verification for someone who cannot prove legal status."

The Democratic governor's decision comes as the Department of Homeland Security is pushing all 50 states to tighten their identification standards. Merola said Spitzer's approach "is going just the opposite way" as the federal government.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


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KEYWORDS: aliens; eliotspitzer; immigrantlist; immigration; spitzer
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1 posted on 09/27/2007 9:05:33 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: yorkie

I hope his life becomes a living heck!


2 posted on 09/27/2007 9:10:54 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: yorkie; neverdem; The Mayor

This is a ridiculous idea. The hoops you have to jump through to get a license in NY is unreal. You need an original birth certificate, original SS card, and two other forms of ID, like school grade reports or credit card bills. And they want to just hand out drivers licenses to illegals?!?!

makes..... blood..... boil....


3 posted on 09/27/2007 9:13:24 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Can governor be impeached for treason?


4 posted on 09/27/2007 9:14:03 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Looks like Mike is thinking of running for Governor.


5 posted on 09/27/2007 9:17:16 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: metmom; Liz

Good question

Liz?


6 posted on 09/27/2007 9:17:55 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: yorkie
said Rensselaer County Clerk Frank Merola. "I myself will not process any driver's license renewal or driver's license verification for someone who cannot prove legal status."

Poor sap thinks he lives in the USA.

King Spitzer will make short work of him for sure.

7 posted on 09/27/2007 9:19:17 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: yorkie

the steamroller is at it again!
He’s going to go to war with anyone who would dare challenge him on a blatantly stupid idea.


8 posted on 09/27/2007 9:19:39 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: yorkie

It’s a great idea! The only question I ave is will they be issuing box cutters to the illegals as well.


9 posted on 09/27/2007 9:22:54 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: metmom

“This is a ridiculous idea. The hoops you have to jump through to get a license in NY is unreal. You need an original birth certificate, original SS card, and two other forms of ID, like school grade reports or credit card bills. And they want to just hand out drivers licenses to illegals?!?!

makes..... blood..... boil....”

up until a few years ago my SS# was still under my maiden name, and my NY license had my married name.
I received a letter from DMV stating that if the names don’t match I would have my license suspended.

A couple of years ago I took care of the problem.

Today I received a letter from DMV stating that when I renew, if I cannot provide a valid ss#, I can still offer a valid passport.


10 posted on 09/27/2007 9:23:15 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: yorkie

Heard someone from some homeland security thing in the State Senate that there is a law on the books requiring ss# to obtain license. He says Spitzer (that creepy looking guy who you wouldn’t sit next to on a subway) can’t legally do this. Thing is I don’t think Spitzer is concerned with legality. He’s basically a thug who tries to bully his way through.


11 posted on 09/27/2007 9:25:32 PM PDT by isrul (Lamentations 5:2)
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To: yorkie

“’Many of us think the whole idea is crazy and ill-fated’, said Rensselaer County Clerk Frank Merola. ‘I myself will not process any driver’s license renewal or driver’s license verification for someone who cannot prove legal status’.”

Good for Mr. Merola!

People are starting to revolt against this nonsense of catering to illegals... actually putting them BEFORE American citizens!


12 posted on 09/27/2007 9:27:26 PM PDT by STE=Q ("Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock." (Will Rogers))
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To: Rome2000

>>Poor sap thinks he lives in the USA.<<

You mean the way it ‘used’ to be? Before our sovereignty was being diminished, increment by increment? When immigrants had to stay on Ellis Island, and get full medical testing and proclaim allegience to our country? When those immigrants had to speak English before they could be ‘honored’ with citizenship, and actually wanted to “ADD” to this Land of the Free, and Home of the Brave?

You know - the days when they proudly held the flag of the United States, with tears streaming down their faces - and were PROUD to be a part of this Sovereign Nation.

Sorry, Charlie. Those days are gone, don’cha know?


13 posted on 09/27/2007 9:28:05 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: yorkie
Another poster the Republicans should be hanging around the democraps necks; but like always, the Republicans will give these nit wits a pass. This has been out almost a week and I have not heard one Republican say anything about this crazy plan!
14 posted on 09/27/2007 9:28:52 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: metmom
Courtesy of Human Events:

When [9/11 hijackers] Hanjour and Almihdhar showed up at DMV Express [in Virginia], they apparently already had two forms of ID--a passport and a legal visa would have been accepted---because they did not submit DL6s to establish their identity. But they did submit DL51s, to "prove" their Virginia residence. Martinez [an illegal alien day laborer from El Salvador who they'd hired to help them get driver's licenses] allegedly certified the forms for both of them.

On the forms, the men claimed to live in an apartment complex on the 5900 block of Leesburg Pike--one block down from the strip mall. "This address did not belong to either Hanjour or Almihdhar," [FBI agent] Gomez wrote in his affidavit, "but was rather the address that appeared on Martinez's Virginia identification card. Martinez no longer lived at the address, but had in the past." With their newly minted photo IDs, the two suspected terrorists drove back with Martinez to Culmore. "At the 7-Eleven they all got out of the van," wrote Gomez. "Hanjour and Almihdhar went inside the store and appeared to use the ATM machine. They then came out, paid Martinez $100 in cash for his efforts, and left in the van. Martinez did not see them again."

But the Virginia DMV had not seen the last of these two. Hanjour and Almihdhar were now qualified to certify the legal residency of other terrorists.

That is exactly what they did the next day--at a DMV about three miles from the Pentagon on South Four Mile Run in Arlington.

Wrote Special Agent Gomez: "DMV records also show that Hanjour and Almihdhar used the address Martinez gave them on August 1, 2001, to complete DL51 forms for [9/11 hijackers] Majed Moqed (Moqed) and Salem Alhazmi (Alhazmi) on August 2, 2001..."

Three other suspected hijackers showed up at the Arlington DMV that very same day. They, too, needed witnesses to help them secure Virginia IDs. But unlike Hanjour and Almihdhar, they needed not only DL51s, to establish a residence, but also DL6s, to establish their identities. That meant they had to have the help of a witness, a notary, and a lawyer...

...Herbert and Lopez-Flores [also illegal alien day laborers] got into Herbert's car and drove to an attorney's office on Columbia Pike in Falls Church. The three Arab men followed in their van...

One of the Arab men in the office that day was Ahmed Alghamdi, one of the suspected hijackers of United Airlines Flight 175, which flew into the World Trade Center towers. Lopez-Flores vouched for his DL51 form, on which Alghamdi falsely claimed to live on Edison Street in Alexandria.

Abdul Alomari was another one of the Arab men in the law office that day. He is a suspected hijacker of American Airlines Flight 11, which also crashed into the World Trade Center towers. Alomari claimed to live on Buchanan Street in Arlington. "Oscar Armando Diaz," whom the FBI believes to be Villalobos, certified Alomari's residency on the DL51. (The actual resident at this location was Villalobos' cousin.)

Villalobos, who told the FBI he believed the men to be Pakistani or Iraqi, added an interesting note. "Villalobos said the attorney then came out of his office and signed the forms as well," wrote Special Agent Weidner. "Here, Villalobos noted that the attorney conversed with the 'Pakistanis' in 'their language.' After this conversation, each 'Pakistani' man paid the secretary $35, and then all returned to the Arlington DMV office. Once back at the DMV office, the 'Pakistani' men paid Villalobos $50 for his assistance and then went into the DMV to get identification cards."

When the FBI later showed Villalobos photos of the suspected September 11 hijackers, he identified five of them--Hani Hanjour, Salem Alhazmi, Majed Moqed, Khalid Alghamdi and Abdul Alomari--as being at the Arlington DMV that day. "These identifications," Special Agent Weidner wrote, "were later confirmed by Virginia DMV records which show that all five men did in fact conduct various transactions relating to Virginia identifications cards at the Arlington DMV on August 2, 2001..."


15 posted on 09/27/2007 9:32:26 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Rome2000
King Spitzer will make short work of him for sure.

You joke, but it is true. Spitzer is a truly EVIL man. You can be sure he will exact some kind of revenge on Mr. Merola.

16 posted on 09/27/2007 9:32:32 PM PDT by montag813
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I live in NYC...and when I pass people on the sidewalk, I look at them and think, “My God, most of you voted for Spitzer...for Hillary...for Chuck the Schmuck...for Bloominidiot.” I feel like a normal human being in “Invasion of the Body Snatchers,” surrounded by mindless pod people.

Maybe it’s time to revive the movement to make NYC a separate country - I’d enthusiastically support getting rid of Moscow on the Hudson...and anyone from NYC would have to show a passport and have a visa (make them really hard to get!) to cross the border into America.


17 posted on 09/27/2007 9:39:15 PM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad
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To: montag813
I escaped from NYC 15 years ago, can't understand why anyone would subject themselves or their family to such a monstrous place.

The voters in the City put Spitzer in, there is no hope for the rest of the state.

18 posted on 09/27/2007 9:41:45 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: TrueKnightGalahad

LMBO!!


19 posted on 09/27/2007 9:53:54 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: yorkie
Spitzer during the war:


20 posted on 09/27/2007 10:16:00 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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