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To: looscnnn

I’ll see your sarcasm, and raise you one.

Mental health is no reason ir no reason to deprive a citizen of essential rights — I mean where would be be if we had applied this standard to Chapman, Hinckley, Oswald,, Guiteau, Ray, Czolgosz, Kliebold, Harris, Berkowitz, Capone, Biancho,bouni, Whitman, DeSavo, and Bothe?

Some folks should not have guns. See paragraph above.


77 posted on 09/25/2007 4:19:56 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError

Ok. Here are a few for you Whitman (speculated as medically caused), Williams/Mohammed, Watson, Ferguson, Roberts, Kinkel, Carneal, Johnson, and Golden.

The point is that murder is a crime, all these people (and the ones you listed) knew that it was at the time they committed the murders. So the question is what is the difference other than the mental health part? Absolutely zero, so then it comes down to if we ban menally ill from possessing, does it stop murders? No.

We don’t need to ban mentally ill from possessing firearms, if a person is a threat to themselves or others they don’t belong in public. Once they are deemed safe to rejoin the public, they should be just as safe as you to possess firearms.


78 posted on 09/26/2007 10:09:16 AM PDT by looscnnn (DU is a VD for the brain.)
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To: ReignOfError
I would also like to note the following:

*All other pro gun groups are opposed to this bill. *This bill expands the Brady Bill, which used to be called gun control. *Note who the sponsor and co-sponsor are. *A crime could be a felony in one state and be a misdomeanor in another and would show up in NICS making someone prohibitted from owning. *What about states that prohibit sharing mental health information, those that would be prohibited would not be listed. Taxpayers would still be footing the bill for this law. *The bill would included domestic violence restraining orders and domestic violence misdemeanor records in NICS, even though many ROs are boilerplate for divorces when no violence has happended or threatened. In some places, yelling at a spouse is domestic violence so you could loose your right for do so. *The bill states "an adjudication as a mental defective occurs when a court, board, commission, or other government entity determines that a person, as a result of marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease--(i) is a danger to himself or to others; or (ii) lacks the mental capacity to contract or manage his own affairs." A "board, commision or other government entity" does not provide due process and could find gun owners, Christians, conservatives, etc. as having "marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease".

79 posted on 09/26/2007 11:12:08 AM PDT by looscnnn (DU is a VD for the brain.)
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